Sketchup 2013 issues

thomthom · 25 May 2013, 15:08

@penguin2 said:

Loaded the following from EW:-
'Selection Toys'
'Edge Tools2'

http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=32055#p476358

Dan Rathbun · 25 May 2013, 15:44

@box said:

Is this nagware that only goes away with Pro, or am I even more stupid than usual?

No you are not any dumber than usual.

Yes the check box has been removed for the 2013 Make edition, and only appears in the Pro edition.

An omission from the "What's New" list...

Garry K · 25 May 2013, 16:13

Does anyone know of a registry entry that would disable the Nag screen?

I have a ruby script that I run at startup that draws a complete kitchen.

Version 7 - 17 seconds
Version 8 - 19 seconds
Version 2013 - 52 seconds

For what ever reason Version 8's graphics have less jaggies than Version 7 or Version 2013.

So - I'm not impressed.

TIG · 25 May 2013, 16:18

@garry k said:

Does anyone know of a registry entry that would disable the Nag screen?

I have a ruby script that I run at startup that draws a complete kitchen.

Version 7 - 17 seconds
Version 8 - 19 seconds
Version 2013 - 52 seconds

For what ever reason Version 8's graphics have less jaggies than Version 7 or Version 2013.

So - I'm not impressed.
The nag [aka 'welcome'] screen 'show' setting is hard-coded into 'Make', it simply ignores the existing registry entry that is set 0/1 for 'Pro' by the check-box...
So don't waste your time trying to circumvent it

thomthom · 25 May 2013, 16:28

@garry k said:

Version 7 - 17 seconds
Version 8 - 19 seconds
Version 2013 - 52 seconds

Interesting. Is the operation wrapped in model.start_operation? And is the disable_ui argument set to true?

Garry K · 25 May 2013, 16:35

I am not using model.start_operation.

thomthom · 25 May 2013, 17:01

See if it makes a difference if you wrap it up into one operation - and use the disable_ui argument.

Garry K · 25 May 2013, 17:45

I added in the code as you suggested.

model.start_operation( "gkware", true )

did all the work

model.commit_operation

Version 8 increased its time from 19 seconds to 90 seconds
Version 2013 increased its time from 52 seconds to 64 seconds

So - for those who are using start / commit then 2013 is faster. But for me - it's quite a bit slower.

thomthom · 25 May 2013, 18:09

That is bizzare. I've never seen disable_ui make things slower. It's always been faster as it prevented the UI from updating while the operation ran.

Garry K · 25 May 2013, 18:34

When running code without the disable_ui I have to make certain that the Outliner is not visible - otherwise it is really slow.

Here are 2 images of a kitchen. One in Sketchup 8 and the other in Sketchup 2013

thomthom · 25 May 2013, 18:45

For the images - the edge appear more jagged because you haven't exported with anti-aliasing.

Garry K · 25 May 2013, 18:59

These aren't exported - I used a snipping tool to grab exactly what I see on screen.

If you click on the images and compare them - Sketchup 8 is giving me better graphics.

Garry K · 25 May 2013, 19:33

I figured it out - I had to play around with the OpenGL settings. Sketchup 2013 defaulted to 15 0x antialias whereas Sketchup 8 was using 40 4x.

Now they are both rendering the same.

Krisidious · 25 May 2013, 23:47

@garry k said:

I figured it out - I had to play around with the OpenGL settings. Sketchup 2013 defaulted to 15 0x antialias whereas Sketchup 8 was using 40 4x.

Now they are both rendering the same.

I'm glad you got it working, but I'm interested in this kitchen plugin... Do you have your own thread? I'd love to know more about it.

Garry K · 26 May 2013, 00:36

What I have is a C++ program that I built called CabMaker32. It handles the sizes, # of doors / drawers etc. It builds a complete cutting list and lets you fill in a few details about rendering. It then calls Sketchup with a ruby script. The Ruby script then renders the cabinets.

I did create a door plugin - that will give you door and drawer fronts in lots of wood textures and pretty much what ever size you need - inches or metric.

There are many door styles.

My web site is CabMaker32.com - you can download the free door plugin and trials for cabmaker32 and cutmasterpro (a parts optimizer that I built in C++).

I have 2 threads here
http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=183&t=50636

http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=51717

Krisidious · 26 May 2013, 00:43

awesome... thanks.

circus · 26 May 2013, 08:13

I am using SU 2013 education and I can not export anything and I have only a few selection to import? Is this a issue with 2013 or is it a part of the new license? My previous education licenses would let me export and import DWGs.

P.

Gaieus · 26 May 2013, 08:44

@circus said:

I am using SU 2013 education and I can not export anything and I have only a few selection to import? Is this a issue with 2013 or is it a part of the new license? My previous education licenses would let me export and import DWGs.

P.

An edu license should work exactly like a full pro license (the only difference is that it's time limited for an academic year). Have you actually renewed your license for 2013? It should be free for edu license holders (AFAIK).

Krisidious · 26 May 2013, 08:44

That is a fantastic plugin Garry. Excellent work. This is http://cabmaker32.com/ going on my Christmas list.

Dan Rathbun · 26 May 2013, 09:24

Your SU 8 license will NOT work with 2013.

You must get a new license for 2013.