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    • thomthomT Offline
      thomthom
      last edited by

      @penguin2 said:

      Loaded the following from EW:-
      'Selection Toys'
      'Edge Tools2'

      http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=32055#p476358

      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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      • Dan RathbunD Offline
        Dan Rathbun
        last edited by

        @box said:

        Is this nagware that only goes away with Pro, or am I even more stupid than usual?

        No you are not any dumber than usual. 😛

        Yes the check box has been removed for the 2013 Make edition, and only appears in the Pro edition.

        An omission from the "What's New" list... 😒

        I'm not here much anymore.

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          Garry K
          last edited by

          Does anyone know of a registry entry that would disable the Nag screen?

          I have a ruby script that I run at startup that draws a complete kitchen.

          Version 7 - 17 seconds
          Version 8 - 19 seconds
          Version 2013 - 52 seconds

          For what ever reason Version 8's graphics have less jaggies than Version 7 or Version 2013.

          So - I'm not impressed.

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          • TIGT Online
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            @garry k said:

            Does anyone know of a registry entry that would disable the Nag screen?

            I have a ruby script that I run at startup that draws a complete kitchen.

            Version 7 - 17 seconds
            Version 8 - 19 seconds
            Version 2013 - 52 seconds

            For what ever reason Version 8's graphics have less jaggies than Version 7 or Version 2013.

            So - I'm not impressed.
            The nag [aka 'welcome'] screen 'show' setting is hard-coded into 'Make', it simply ignores the existing registry entry that is set 0/1 for 'Pro' by the check-box...
            So don't waste your time trying to circumvent it 😒

            TIG

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            • thomthomT Offline
              thomthom
              last edited by

              @garry k said:

              Version 7 - 17 seconds
              Version 8 - 19 seconds
              Version 2013 - 52 seconds

              Interesting. Is the operation wrapped in model.start_operation? And is the disable_ui argument set to true?

              Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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              • G Offline
                Garry K
                last edited by

                I am not using model.start_operation.

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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
                  last edited by

                  See if it makes a difference if you wrap it up into one operation - and use the disable_ui argument.

                  Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                  • G Offline
                    Garry K
                    last edited by

                    I added in the code as you suggested.

                    model.start_operation( "gkware", true )

                    did all the work

                    model.commit_operation

                    Version 8 increased its time from 19 seconds to 90 seconds
                    Version 2013 increased its time from 52 seconds to 64 seconds

                    So - for those who are using start / commit then 2013 is faster. But for me - it's quite a bit slower.

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
                      last edited by

                      That is bizzare. I've never seen disable_ui make things slower. It's always been faster as it prevented the UI from updating while the operation ran.

                      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                        Garry K
                        last edited by

                        When running code without the disable_ui I have to make certain that the Outliner is not visible - otherwise it is really slow.

                        Here are 2 images of a kitchen. One in Sketchup 8 and the other in Sketchup 2013


                        Sketchup 8


                        Sketchup 2013

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                        • thomthomT Offline
                          thomthom
                          last edited by

                          For the images - the edge appear more jagged because you haven't exported with anti-aliasing.

                          Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                            Garry K
                            last edited by

                            These aren't exported - I used a snipping tool to grab exactly what I see on screen.

                            If you click on the images and compare them - Sketchup 8 is giving me better graphics.

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                            • G Offline
                              Garry K
                              last edited by

                              I figured it out - I had to play around with the OpenGL settings. Sketchup 2013 defaulted to 15 0x antialias whereas Sketchup 8 was using 40 4x.

                              Now they are both rendering the same.

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                              • KrisidiousK Offline
                                Krisidious
                                last edited by

                                @garry k said:

                                I figured it out - I had to play around with the OpenGL settings. Sketchup 2013 defaulted to 15 0x antialias whereas Sketchup 8 was using 40 4x.

                                Now they are both rendering the same.

                                I'm glad you got it working, but I'm interested in this kitchen plugin... Do you have your own thread? I'd love to know more about it.

                                By: Kristoff Rand
                                Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                  Garry K
                                  last edited by

                                  What I have is a C++ program that I built called CabMaker32. It handles the sizes, # of doors / drawers etc. It builds a complete cutting list and lets you fill in a few details about rendering. It then calls Sketchup with a ruby script. The Ruby script then renders the cabinets.

                                  I did create a door plugin - that will give you door and drawer fronts in lots of wood textures and pretty much what ever size you need - inches or metric.

                                  There are many door styles.

                                  My web site is CabMaker32.com - you can download the free door plugin and trials for cabmaker32 and cutmasterpro (a parts optimizer that I built in C++).

                                  I have 2 threads here
                                  http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=183&t=50636

                                  http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=51717

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                                  • KrisidiousK Offline
                                    Krisidious
                                    last edited by

                                    awesome... thanks.

                                    By: Kristoff Rand
                                    Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                      circus
                                      last edited by

                                      I am using SU 2013 education and I can not export anything and I have only a few selection to import? Is this a issue with 2013 or is it a part of the new license? My previous education licenses would let me export and import DWGs.

                                      P.

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                                      • GaieusG Offline
                                        Gaieus
                                        last edited by

                                        @circus said:

                                        I am using SU 2013 education and I can not export anything and I have only a few selection to import? Is this a issue with 2013 or is it a part of the new license? My previous education licenses would let me export and import DWGs.

                                        P.

                                        An edu license should work exactly like a full pro license (the only difference is that it's time limited for an academic year). Have you actually renewed your license for 2013? It should be free for edu license holders (AFAIK).

                                        Gai...

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                                        • KrisidiousK Offline
                                          Krisidious
                                          last edited by

                                          That is a fantastic plugin Garry. Excellent work. This is http://cabmaker32.com/ going on my Christmas list.

                                          By: Kristoff Rand
                                          Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                          • Dan RathbunD Offline
                                            Dan Rathbun
                                            last edited by

                                            Your SU 8 license will NOT work with 2013.

                                            You must get a new license for 2013.

                                            I'm not here much anymore.

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