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    • KrisidiousK Offline
      Krisidious
      last edited by

      You're right, mine is not there either...

      By: Kristoff Rand
      Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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      • BoxB Offline
        Box
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        Ah Ok, so either it's annoying everyone that is using 13 or you and I are equally "Challenged"

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        • KrisidiousK Offline
          Krisidious
          last edited by

          I've looked through preferences and found nothing.

          By: Kristoff Rand
          Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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          • thomthomT Offline
            thomthom
            last edited by

            @penguin2 said:

            Loaded the following from EW:-
            'Selection Toys'
            'Edge Tools2'

            http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=32055#p476358

            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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            • Dan RathbunD Offline
              Dan Rathbun
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              @box said:

              Is this nagware that only goes away with Pro, or am I even more stupid than usual?

              No you are not any dumber than usual. 😛

              Yes the check box has been removed for the 2013 Make edition, and only appears in the Pro edition.

              An omission from the "What's New" list... 😒

              I'm not here much anymore.

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                Garry K
                last edited by

                Does anyone know of a registry entry that would disable the Nag screen?

                I have a ruby script that I run at startup that draws a complete kitchen.

                Version 7 - 17 seconds
                Version 8 - 19 seconds
                Version 2013 - 52 seconds

                For what ever reason Version 8's graphics have less jaggies than Version 7 or Version 2013.

                So - I'm not impressed.

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                • TIGT Offline
                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by

                  @garry k said:

                  Does anyone know of a registry entry that would disable the Nag screen?

                  I have a ruby script that I run at startup that draws a complete kitchen.

                  Version 7 - 17 seconds
                  Version 8 - 19 seconds
                  Version 2013 - 52 seconds

                  For what ever reason Version 8's graphics have less jaggies than Version 7 or Version 2013.

                  So - I'm not impressed.
                  The nag [aka 'welcome'] screen 'show' setting is hard-coded into 'Make', it simply ignores the existing registry entry that is set 0/1 for 'Pro' by the check-box...
                  So don't waste your time trying to circumvent it 😒

                  TIG

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                  • thomthomT Offline
                    thomthom
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                    @garry k said:

                    Version 7 - 17 seconds
                    Version 8 - 19 seconds
                    Version 2013 - 52 seconds

                    Interesting. Is the operation wrapped in model.start_operation? And is the disable_ui argument set to true?

                    Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                    • G Offline
                      Garry K
                      last edited by

                      I am not using model.start_operation.

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                      • thomthomT Offline
                        thomthom
                        last edited by

                        See if it makes a difference if you wrap it up into one operation - and use the disable_ui argument.

                        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                        • G Offline
                          Garry K
                          last edited by

                          I added in the code as you suggested.

                          model.start_operation( "gkware", true )

                          did all the work

                          model.commit_operation

                          Version 8 increased its time from 19 seconds to 90 seconds
                          Version 2013 increased its time from 52 seconds to 64 seconds

                          So - for those who are using start / commit then 2013 is faster. But for me - it's quite a bit slower.

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                          • thomthomT Offline
                            thomthom
                            last edited by

                            That is bizzare. I've never seen disable_ui make things slower. It's always been faster as it prevented the UI from updating while the operation ran.

                            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                              Garry K
                              last edited by

                              When running code without the disable_ui I have to make certain that the Outliner is not visible - otherwise it is really slow.

                              Here are 2 images of a kitchen. One in Sketchup 8 and the other in Sketchup 2013


                              Sketchup 8


                              Sketchup 2013

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                              • thomthomT Offline
                                thomthom
                                last edited by

                                For the images - the edge appear more jagged because you haven't exported with anti-aliasing.

                                Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                • G Offline
                                  Garry K
                                  last edited by

                                  These aren't exported - I used a snipping tool to grab exactly what I see on screen.

                                  If you click on the images and compare them - Sketchup 8 is giving me better graphics.

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                                  • G Offline
                                    Garry K
                                    last edited by

                                    I figured it out - I had to play around with the OpenGL settings. Sketchup 2013 defaulted to 15 0x antialias whereas Sketchup 8 was using 40 4x.

                                    Now they are both rendering the same.

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                                    • KrisidiousK Offline
                                      Krisidious
                                      last edited by

                                      @garry k said:

                                      I figured it out - I had to play around with the OpenGL settings. Sketchup 2013 defaulted to 15 0x antialias whereas Sketchup 8 was using 40 4x.

                                      Now they are both rendering the same.

                                      I'm glad you got it working, but I'm interested in this kitchen plugin... Do you have your own thread? I'd love to know more about it.

                                      By: Kristoff Rand
                                      Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                        Garry K
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                                        What I have is a C++ program that I built called CabMaker32. It handles the sizes, # of doors / drawers etc. It builds a complete cutting list and lets you fill in a few details about rendering. It then calls Sketchup with a ruby script. The Ruby script then renders the cabinets.

                                        I did create a door plugin - that will give you door and drawer fronts in lots of wood textures and pretty much what ever size you need - inches or metric.

                                        There are many door styles.

                                        My web site is CabMaker32.com - you can download the free door plugin and trials for cabmaker32 and cutmasterpro (a parts optimizer that I built in C++).

                                        I have 2 threads here
                                        http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=183&t=50636

                                        http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=51717

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                                        • KrisidiousK Offline
                                          Krisidious
                                          last edited by

                                          awesome... thanks.

                                          By: Kristoff Rand
                                          Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                            circus
                                            last edited by

                                            I am using SU 2013 education and I can not export anything and I have only a few selection to import? Is this a issue with 2013 or is it a part of the new license? My previous education licenses would let me export and import DWGs.

                                            P.

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