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    Krisidious
    last edited by 25 May 2013, 13:07

    @box said:

    I can't for the life of me find how to turn off the "Welcome to sketchup" screen. It opens every time even if I already have SU open and will only go away by clicking, Start using.....
    Is this nagware that only goes away with Pro, or am I even more stupid than usual?

    should be a check box to turn it off right in the window itself... at the bottom.

    By: Kristoff Rand
    Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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      Box
      last edited by 25 May 2013, 13:11

      That was the first place I looked, but no.

      If you are telling me it does exist then I need to adjust my resolution again to find it.


      Nope.JPG

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        Box
        last edited by 25 May 2013, 13:46

        So are you saying Kristoff, that in the pro version it doesn't nag you each time.

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          Krisidious
          last edited by 25 May 2013, 14:06

          No, I'm saying it does. maybe it's because I'm still in evaluation?CaptureSUintro.JPG

          By: Kristoff Rand
          Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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            Krisidious
            last edited by 25 May 2013, 14:07

            You're right, mine is not there either...

            By: Kristoff Rand
            Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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              Box
              last edited by 25 May 2013, 14:10

              Ah Ok, so either it's annoying everyone that is using 13 or you and I are equally "Challenged"

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                Krisidious
                last edited by 25 May 2013, 14:36

                I've looked through preferences and found nothing.

                By: Kristoff Rand
                Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                  thomthom
                  last edited by 25 May 2013, 15:08

                  @penguin2 said:

                  Loaded the following from EW:-
                  'Selection Toys'
                  'Edge Tools2'

                  http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=32055#p476358

                  Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                    Dan Rathbun
                    last edited by 25 May 2013, 15:44

                    @box said:

                    Is this nagware that only goes away with Pro, or am I even more stupid than usual?

                    No you are not any dumber than usual. πŸ˜›

                    Yes the check box has been removed for the 2013 Make edition, and only appears in the Pro edition.

                    An omission from the "What's New" list... πŸ˜’

                    I'm not here much anymore.

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                      Garry K
                      last edited by 25 May 2013, 16:13

                      Does anyone know of a registry entry that would disable the Nag screen?

                      I have a ruby script that I run at startup that draws a complete kitchen.

                      Version 7 - 17 seconds
                      Version 8 - 19 seconds
                      Version 2013 - 52 seconds

                      For what ever reason Version 8's graphics have less jaggies than Version 7 or Version 2013.

                      So - I'm not impressed.

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                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by 25 May 2013, 16:18

                        @garry k said:

                        Does anyone know of a registry entry that would disable the Nag screen?

                        I have a ruby script that I run at startup that draws a complete kitchen.

                        Version 7 - 17 seconds
                        Version 8 - 19 seconds
                        Version 2013 - 52 seconds

                        For what ever reason Version 8's graphics have less jaggies than Version 7 or Version 2013.

                        So - I'm not impressed.
                        The nag [aka 'welcome'] screen 'show' setting is hard-coded into 'Make', it simply ignores the existing registry entry that is set 0/1 for 'Pro' by the check-box...
                        So don't waste your time trying to circumvent it πŸ˜’

                        TIG

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                          thomthom
                          last edited by 25 May 2013, 16:28

                          @garry k said:

                          Version 7 - 17 seconds
                          Version 8 - 19 seconds
                          Version 2013 - 52 seconds

                          Interesting. Is the operation wrapped in model.start_operation? And is the disable_ui argument set to true?

                          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                            Garry K
                            last edited by 25 May 2013, 16:35

                            I am not using model.start_operation.

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                              thomthom
                              last edited by 25 May 2013, 17:01

                              See if it makes a difference if you wrap it up into one operation - and use the disable_ui argument.

                              Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                Garry K
                                last edited by 25 May 2013, 17:45

                                I added in the code as you suggested.

                                model.start_operation( "gkware", true )

                                did all the work

                                model.commit_operation

                                Version 8 increased its time from 19 seconds to 90 seconds
                                Version 2013 increased its time from 52 seconds to 64 seconds

                                So - for those who are using start / commit then 2013 is faster. But for me - it's quite a bit slower.

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                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by 25 May 2013, 18:09

                                  That is bizzare. I've never seen disable_ui make things slower. It's always been faster as it prevented the UI from updating while the operation ran.

                                  Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                    Garry K
                                    last edited by 25 May 2013, 18:34

                                    When running code without the disable_ui I have to make certain that the Outliner is not visible - otherwise it is really slow.

                                    Here are 2 images of a kitchen. One in Sketchup 8 and the other in Sketchup 2013


                                    Sketchup 8


                                    Sketchup 2013

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                                      thomthom
                                      last edited by 25 May 2013, 18:45

                                      For the images - the edge appear more jagged because you haven't exported with anti-aliasing.

                                      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                        Garry K
                                        last edited by 25 May 2013, 18:59

                                        These aren't exported - I used a snipping tool to grab exactly what I see on screen.

                                        If you click on the images and compare them - Sketchup 8 is giving me better graphics.

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                                          Garry K
                                          last edited by 25 May 2013, 19:33

                                          I figured it out - I had to play around with the OpenGL settings. Sketchup 2013 defaulted to 15 0x antialias whereas Sketchup 8 was using 40 4x.

                                          Now they are both rendering the same.

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