Sketchup 64 bit?
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WWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW!
Did you reply? What did you say?
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i dont reply anything, for now thisi is enough information for me. I am very big fun of sketchup i now im very hame to hear that new sketchup will be 64bit.
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@anteolic said:
Evrybody says that new sketchup not be 64bit but i got this answer from Trimble
Hi,
Thanks for the note. We don't have an exact date we can share with you to when the next version of SketchUp Pro will be released. We are working on the next version and plan to have it out sometime this year. The plan is to include 64bit functionality.
If you need anything else, please let me know.
@anteolic said:
i dont reply anything, for now thisi is enough information for me. I am very big fun of sketchup i now im very hame to hear that new sketchup will be 64bit.
64bit functionality not sure if that means SketchUp will be 64bit. Considering John Bacus's replies earlier it appeared that 64bit SketchUp wasn't high up there on the list. So I am surprised if the next release will be so. And more surprised they would mention this to anyone. They never reveal information prior to releases.
Until this is verified I hold back my "wow!".
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Party pooper
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this was my question to Trimble maybe it will help you
When is comming new sketchup and will it be 64bit. Cause program is perfect but i can work with large scenes
and they answer me:
Hi,
Thanks for the note. We don't have an exact date we can share with you to when the next version of SketchUp Pro will be released. We are working on the next version and plan to have it out sometime this year. The plan is to include 64bit functionality.
If you need anything else, please let me know.
Kind Regards,
NAME SURNAME-i dont wont write name of agent cause i dont know it is good.
Inside Sales & Support | SketchUp Pro
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If this is correct (and you would hope sales dept. would know the facts) then I will definitely be upgrading to 2013.
Best,
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Could this be true?
My skeptical look.
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I'm hopeful! I need to start using all 64Gb of memory in my new machine!
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You might get solicitations from organizations wanting to borrow number crunching time on on your machine, if the 64Gb is any indicator.
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@unknownuser said:
I'm hopeful! I need to start using all 64Gb of memory in my new machine!
Why? When have you run out of memory while using SketchUp?
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@thomthom said:
Why? When have you run out of memory while using SketchUp?
I often forget about which or where plugins are for something I require, so I can say I have a memory issues in SU.
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Firehose!
Ok, sorry to burst the bubble, but I contacted the SketchUp team to verify this and they replied that there is no 64bit builds of the next SketchUp version.
They have no knowledge of anyone in the team ever making this claim.
They also stressed that they have a company policy to never reveal specific information on new features about the next version prior to it's release.
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@thomthom said:
@unknownuser said:
I'm hopeful! I need to start using all 64Gb of memory in my new machine!
Why? When have you run out of memory while using SketchUp?
Well it would be impossible to run out of memory when the max capable of the program is less than 4gb. I do use other 64 bit programs, that clearly utilize the extra memory. So yes I'm always hopeful for more speed. I know you are not saying SU is as fast as it needs to be. Correct?
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@thomthom said:
Firehose!
Ok, sorry to burst the bubble, but I contacted the SketchUp team to verify this and they replied that there is no 64bit builds of the next SketchUp version.
They have no knowledge of anyone in the team ever making this claim.
They also stressed that they have a company policy to never reveal specific information on new features about the next version prior to it's release.
And they still told you this to post on a public forum? The reality is, eventually 32bit programming will be a thing of the past. Maybe the next version is still 32bit, but eventually it will have to move in the same direction of everything else out there.
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@unknownuser said:
@thomthom said:
@unknownuser said:
I'm hopeful! I need to start using all 64Gb of memory in my new machine!
Why? When have you run out of memory while using SketchUp?
Well it would be impossible to run out of memory when the max capable of the program is less than 4gb. I do use other 64 bit programs, that clearly utilize the extra memory. So yes I'm always hopeful for more speed. I know you are not saying SU is as fast as it needs to be. Correct?
64bit has nothing to do with speed or performance. It only allows you to address more memory. That's it. No magic.
And have you ever experienced SketchUp running out of memory? It would then crash. You could see that it runs out of memory if you kept the Task Manager open and observed that it ran to over 4GB.
@unknownuser said:
And they still told you this to post on a public forum? The reality is, eventually 32bit programming will be a thing of the past. Maybe the next version is still 32bit, but eventually it will have to move in the same direction of everything else out there.
Yes, they said I could debunk this.
Windows might go all 64bit, but do not expect a magic speed improvement. The fact of the matter is, 64bit instead of 32bit means the data processed is double the size - which can actually lead to worse performance. -
Fro anyone thinking that 64bit means faster applications: http://blog.fnarg.com/2010/12/64-bit-facts-and-myths/
http://www.synfire.com/content/myths-and-facts-about-64-bit
http://tech-analyser.blogspot.no/2011/09/tech-analysers-top-10-tech-myths.html
So can we please lay this to rest?
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I really get irritated when you keep making it sound as if there is no reasonable need for 64-bit SketchUp... just because you don't see yourself needing it, does not mean there is no legitimate need for it.
In my particular instance it has to do with the Maxwell stand-alone plugin. Which does run within the SketchUp 32-bit process. However, thanks to Maxwell support of huge textures (like Arroway), MXS referencing (which can hold massive geometries like you would find in trees), Pretessellated Displacement (which can generate GBs worth geometric data), and Maxwell Grass (which can generate GBs worth or geometry at render-time) you can easily run out of memory.
These are all features which make the use of SketchUp (with all of it's inherent limitations) a bit more tolerable -- Maxwell makes it possible to do visualization work far beyond what SketchUp would normally be able to produce and do it all inside SketchUp... however there is that absurd 4GB limitation which holds the users back.
I know that this is only one case -- but I'm equally certain that there are many other similar cases where 3rd party developers would very much welcome the capability to work within the SketchUp process (and still have access to more RAM).
Now, since we have established long ago that SketchUp is mostly a platform for better solutions at this point -- what type of weak platform ignores the needs of developers so blatantly? The answer is: one which I will not financially support.
Best,
Jason.
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