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    Rich O Brien Moderator
    last edited by 28 Aug 2012, 20:07

    Beaten to the punch....

    http://www.fatihcansarioz.com/31306/325102/works/kure

    [xxl-img:l0yqt063]http://behance.vo.llnwd.net/profiles21/729363/projects/2598441/hd_edd0edb44fcb77a09d5060e34f6a399e.jpg[/xxl-img:l0yqt063]

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      beginner
      last edited by 28 Aug 2012, 20:16

      TIG, you would need some power supply. Isn't it? πŸ˜„ or one battery 9V ❓

      Regards, SU 'beginner'

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        hellnbak
        last edited by 29 Aug 2012, 14:16

        Really nice design, very imaginative πŸ‘

        One observation - it looks like the chair backs would maybe be weak (I'm assuming you would use wooden dowels, since you mentioned you wanted to use all timber)

        "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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          ArCAD-UK
          last edited by 29 Aug 2012, 14:33

          Nice idea Mike, I'm working on some compact living projects and it's the sort of solution the end user might like. Obviously this is probably personal preference but if you can sit on a bar stool at a breakfast bar then why do you need to provide a back support.

          I'd agree with TIG the table lift needs some work maybe an office chair type gas strut.

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            EscapeArtist
            last edited by 29 Aug 2012, 18:13

            I like it, but perhaps you might consider the flanges that are the supports for the base of table. Myself being rather tall and occasionally clumsy, I view those as knee-banging table rattlers. I would waste no time in scooting my seat forward and capsizing a beverage with a well placed knee-shot to the support. A flat, wide, bar-like support that rests directly on the floor or uses slightly recessed wheels would eliminated those bruises and toppled glasses of wine. Low enough to slide beneath the chair base, obviously.

            Just a thought.

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            • M Offline
              Mike Lucey
              last edited by 30 Aug 2012, 00:00

              @Rich
              You have not studied the concept. The design is primarily a coffee table then an occasional dining table.

              While the kΓΌre looks funky, it becomes a big useless blob sitting in the middle of the room taking up valuable space when not being used as a dining table πŸ˜‰

              @ Steve
              Yep, you are right. the chair backs are weak. I have to work on that. Maybe even drop the backs.

              @ArCAD-UK / Trevor B
              TIG is right. Lifting the glass table top would require a fair amount of muscle work. I am thinking of going with a lighter wood (ply) top and a very simple way of having two heights - coffee table - dining table.

              @Jeff
              I'm designing for normal humans! Just kidding πŸ˜„
              I take your point. I now think there is no need for casters on either the table or chairs, just some gliders (very short ones) like on sofas, but much smaller.

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                TIG Moderator
                last edited by 30 Aug 2012, 08:15

                The table-top could have a concealed hydraulic ram - like a hatchback car's door, or even some 'springs to assist you in lifting it up easily. To lower it you'd release the 'catch' and it is damped as it settles down too...
                OR 'Ratchet' strips could also allow an incremental lift and lower using a simple sprung 'catch' [that could all be wooden]
                OR how about a 'lever' system in one of the legs [with a flip down/up pedal that is accessed when a chair is slid out] - that can then 'jack' the table up [like a car bottle-jack?] and when released it lets the top slowly settle back down... πŸ€“

                TIG

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                • M Offline
                  Mike Lucey
                  last edited by 30 Aug 2012, 10:18

                  Great suggestions TIG. I will play around with those.

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                    hellnbak
                    last edited by 30 Aug 2012, 12:20

                    Hey Mike, I got to thinking about the seat back problem, and this is something I came up with.

                    Adding the extra layer would let you increase the thickness of the seat back. This could also work with the wooden dowels.
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                    Probably not the look you were going for, with all the curves, I just started having fun with it πŸ˜† But you get the idea

                    Anyhow, just an idea.

                    "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                      Mike Lucey
                      last edited by 30 Aug 2012, 21:01

                      That works Steve, well done πŸ‘

                      I am moving towards doing even a more straightforward design that doesn't involve curved plywood.

                      This is great as it turning into a collaboration πŸ‘

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                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by 30 Aug 2012, 21:27

                        @mike lucey said:

                        That works Steve, well done πŸ‘

                        I am moving towards doing even a more straightforward design that doesn't involve curved plywood.

                        This is great as it turning into a collaboration πŸ‘
                        A square table and 4 square chairs ? 🀣

                        TIG

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                          Mike Lucey
                          last edited by 30 Aug 2012, 23:52

                          Now there's an idea 😲

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                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by 31 Aug 2012, 10:23

                            The Sqhair
                            Economical on material too.
                            Simply table-sawn and router rounded-corners etc as needed etc.
                            The table can use a simple foot-operated bottle-jack mechanism to lift it up and on release lower down.
                            The storage under the seats is set back a little to avoid heel-clashes.
                            The seat-back half 'L' slides up/down on dado friction glides [Γ  la draw-slides] with a catch to it lock 'up' ?
                            When the seats are removed from the assembly they are set around the table at 45 degrees on the sides of the square. The seats are on castors.


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                            Sqhair.skp

                            TIG

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                              hellnbak
                              last edited by 31 Aug 2012, 10:46

                              Nice, but those seat-backs don't look very comfortable

                              "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                                Mike Lucey
                                last edited by 31 Aug 2012, 11:00

                                Now we are getting places.

                                TIG, would that table have a bit of wobble potential? Also I think Steve might be right about the backs not being too comfy.

                                Have you a pic of a 'foot-operated bottle-jack mechanism'? I'm curious about that.

                                I'm not so sure about the seats being on casters but they could be lockable. I think slides might work better.

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                                  ArCAD-UK
                                  last edited by 31 Aug 2012, 11:34

                                  An octagonal shape applied to TIG's design would sort out the seat backs.

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                                    solo
                                    last edited by 31 Aug 2012, 12:24

                                    http://cdn.dornob.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/combined-wood-table-chairs-design.jpg

                                    http://www.solos-art.com

                                    If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                      hellnbak
                                      last edited by 31 Aug 2012, 12:39

                                      One possible solution to the seat-back

                                      Sorta looks like a toilet with the seat folded down πŸ˜†


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                                      a.png

                                      "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                                        hellnbak
                                        last edited by 31 Aug 2012, 13:09

                                        Maybe a couple of padded armrests for comfort (they could flip up for extra storage)


                                        c.png

                                        "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                                          Mike Lucey
                                          last edited by 31 Aug 2012, 15:21

                                          Nice render Pete. But that a full size table. We are trying to figure out a dual coffee / dining table.

                                          Steve, yep! It does look like a commode ..... maybe an idea?

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