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    thomthom
    last edited by 14 Aug 2012, 20:23

    Ctrl+Erase = Soft+Smooth
    Shift+Erase = Hide
    Ctrl+Shift+Erase = Un-soft+Smooth (But not Unhide!)

    Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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      TIG Moderator
      last edited by 14 Aug 2012, 20:38

      @thomthom said:

      Ctrl+Erase = Soft+Smooth
      Shift+Erase = Hide
      Ctrl+Shift+Erase = Un-soft+Smooth (But not Unhide!)
      Use 'Entity Info' to manipulate selected edges' hidden/soft/smooth status OR alternatively use the context-menu 'Unhide' [or 'Hide']...

      TIG

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        aarondietzen
        last edited by 14 Aug 2012, 21:56

        @tig said:

        @thomthom said:

        Ctrl+Erase = Soft+Smooth
        Shift+Erase = Hide
        Ctrl+Shift+Erase = Un-soft+Smooth (But not Unhide!)
        Use 'Entity Info' to manipulate selected edges' hidden/soft/smooth status OR alternatively use the context-menu 'Unhide' [or 'Hide']...

        "Learn something new everyday!"

        In this case... several new things.

        "Imagination is more important than knowledge..."
        - Albert Einstein

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          pilou
          last edited by 14 Aug 2012, 22:54

          @unknownuser said:

          However I just found out that if you type 3" or 10" it will keep your array but adjust the spacing. Pretty sweet!

          -Brodie

          Duh!

          That is sweet!

          The manual doesn't even mention this!
          http://support.google.com/sketchup/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=94863

          Seems that is more missing here 😉
          http://support.google.com/sketchup/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=94867&topic=2458142&ctx=topic

          Frenchy Pilou
          Is beautiful that please without concept!
          My Little site :)

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            emerald15
            last edited by 15 Aug 2012, 13:52

            @heaps said:

            It even works with circular arrays - just type in the angle in degrees

            You've lost me now...I usually type in x(number) not *(number). But how do I get back to degrees... how does one type 'degrees'! ACAD is 'dd%d' but what is SU?

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              TIG Moderator
              last edited by 15 Aug 2012, 14:00

              Typing an 'x' or '*' is the same - so you can type x2, *2 , 2x etc for 'times'.
              To 'divide' the copies use /2...
              You never need to use a 'degree' symbol with Rotate, any typed in +ve or -ve numbers that don't contain an x, * or / are taken as degrees anyway... In Move [and tools like Line] it's taken as 'current units', unless you add a units suffix, so typing 1000 while using mm Moves the object 1000mm, but to move it a specific distance in feet+inches can be done even while the model's current-units is mm - e.g. typing 3'4" will Move that exact amount [1016mm] etc...

              Incidentally, if you want to type 'special characters' in Sketchup Text - like degrees [°] - there are OS specific key-strokes, on a PC it's Alt0176, on a MAC I think it's OptionShift8. There are lots, so if you use some regularly have a crib sheet handy...

              TIG

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                jgb
                last edited by 15 Aug 2012, 14:51

                This is also a question, based on the above.

                Using SCALE, you can just type a percentage value in the VCB. This is handy to set a specific scale factor like 92%. It is also handy to set a scale factor that is between SCALE's preset snap tolerance of .1% so just type 90.15 in the VCB where SCALE snaps only to 90.1% or 90.2% and you need the precision.

                OK, my question, How do I set scale to a dimensional value?
                ie: my object is 12 inches, and I want it to be 13 inches, without doing the percentage math. AND I am holding the CTRL and SHIFT keys down to scale all and from the center. When I release the mouse button to type, my position is lost.


                jgb

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                  thomthom
                  last edited by 15 Aug 2012, 14:59

                  @jgb said:

                  OK, my question, How do I set scale to a dimensional value?
                  ie: my object is 12 inches, and I want it to be 13 inches, without doing the percentage math. AND I am holding the CTRL and SHIFT keys down to scale all and from the center. When I release the mouse button to type, my position is lost.

                  Just scale roughly first - then use the VCB to adjust with accuracy afterwards - typing in the length.

                  Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                    pilou
                    last edited by 15 Aug 2012, 15:04

                    Just draw a 13 inch segment from a vertex from your object and Scale your object by the line! 😉

                    Alas this just work only with "cubic" objects! 🤓
                    If you have inclined faces you must don't use the native Scale tool!!!

                    Frenchy Pilou
                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                    My Little site :)

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                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by 15 Aug 2012, 15:21

                      Pull out to approximate size [using any modifier keys you desire], then immediately type in the required size, before selecting another tool.
                      The length has to have a 'units suffix'.
                      Type 13 will make it 13x bigger ! but 13" makes it exactly 13 inches, or 330mm which makes it exactly that size in mm, this is done irrespective of the model's current-unit settings...

                      TIG

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                        jgb
                        last edited by 15 Aug 2012, 15:37

                        Post by Pilou on Wed, 15 Aug 2012 10:57 am
                        Just draw a 13 inch segment from a vertex from your object and Scale your object by the line! 😉

                        Yeah, I do that, thanks. 👍

                        Post by thomthom on Wed, 15 Aug 2012 10:59 am
                        Just scale roughly first - then use the VCB to adjust with accuracy afterwards - typing in the length.

                        Can't seem to make it work. I type the value but when I type the " (inch) it erases the value. 😢

                        I noticed that when I press the SHIFT key, the VCB shows me the ratios of each axis, which is handy. 😮
                        You can then adjust the ratios of each axis in the VCB using a comma to separate the % values in the same order as the axis ref to its left. ☀

                        AND you can post adjust the size to a dimension but only in FEET, not inches. 😐


                        jgb

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                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by 15 Aug 2012, 15:46

                          I beg to differ. 😕
                          I can successfully Scale an object to exactly 13" using the " suffix.
                          Pick a point to scale it by an arbitrary amount - 1.1 say - commit the scaling - THEN type 13" to apply the desired exact dimension...
                          What are your unit-settings ? I have tried virtually every combo and they all let me enter 13" successfully ??

                          TIG

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                            brodie
                            last edited by 15 Aug 2012, 15:52

                            @jgb said:

                            This is also a question, based on the above.

                            Using SCALE, you can just type a percentage value in the VCB. This is handy to set a specific scale factor like 92%. It is also handy to set a scale factor that is between SCALE's preset snap tolerance of .1% so just type 90.15 in the VCB where SCALE snaps only to 90.1% or 90.2% and you need the precision.

                            OK, my question, How do I set scale to a dimensional value?
                            ie: my object is 12 inches, and I want it to be 13 inches, without doing the percentage math. AND I am holding the CTRL and SHIFT keys down to scale all and from the center. When I release the mouse button to type, my position is lost.

                            Make sure your object is a group/component. Double click it so you're inside the group and use the tape measure to measure your 12" segment. The VCB will report back that it's 12". Now just type 13" and hit enter. A dialogue will pop up asking "do you want to resize the active group or component?" Hit yes and you're home free 😄

                            This works wonderfully when you get a 'not to scale' drawing that you need to be to scale.

                            -Brodie

                            steelblue http://www.steelbluellc.com

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                              jgb
                              last edited by 15 Aug 2012, 16:12

                              @tig said:

                              I beg to differ. 😕
                              I can successfully Scale an object to exactly 13" using the " suffix.
                              Pick a point to scale it by an arbitrary amount - 1.1 say - commit the scaling - THEN type 13" to apply the desired exact dimension...
                              What are your unit-settings ? I have tried virtually every combo and they all let me enter 13" successfully ??

                              Saw my error....
                              I would scale approx, then enter 13". The 13 would vanish. 👎

                              I need to Left Click after the approx setting, then while the scale box was still active, enter 13", and it worked. 👍 👍 "Minor detail" 😳

                              Brodie; ☀ ☀ 👍 👍

                              Thank you all.


                              jgb

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                                brodie
                                last edited by 15 Aug 2012, 16:18

                                @tig said:

                                Pull out to approximate size [using any modifier keys you desire], then immediately type in the required size, before selecting another tool.
                                The length has to have a 'units suffix'.
                                Type 13 will make it 13x bigger ! but 13" makes it exactly 13 inches, or 330mm which makes it exactly that size in mm, this is done irrespective of the model's current-unit settings...

                                Nice tip, I didn't know that one. 👍

                                So many SU easter eggs.

                                -Brodie

                                steelblue http://www.steelbluellc.com

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                                  cotty
                                  last edited by 15 Aug 2012, 17:10

                                  Here is a nice trick from Jean for rotation axis inferencing .

                                  my SketchUp gallery

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                                    pilou
                                    last edited by 15 Aug 2012, 19:58

                                    Yes but see this epic thread about the insufficiency of the Rotate tool inferency! 😉

                                    Frenchy Pilou
                                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                    My Little site :)

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                                      charly2008
                                      last edited by 19 Aug 2012, 21:50

                                      Hi,

                                      I just got the "SketchUp 7 Bible" scrolled once again. At the "Move Tool" I looked more closely. I did not know that you can also use the tool to make multiple copies of objects.


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                                      He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                                        boofredlay
                                        last edited by 19 Aug 2012, 21:54

                                        Oh yes and if you copy the object then type in 10/ you will get copies divided equally between the two distances. 👍

                                        http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                                          Gaieus
                                          last edited by 19 Aug 2012, 23:23

                                          @charly2008 said:

                                          did not know that you can also use the tool to make multiple copies of objects.

                                          Ah yes, with the Move tool it's called a "Linear array " - but you can also do similar "Radial array " with the Rotate tool

                                          Gai...

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