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  • G Offline
    Gaieus
    last edited by 28 Oct 2010, 06:27

    @thomthom said:

    (4 to draw rectangle... gaarg!)

    🀣

    Gai...

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      Chris Fullmer
      last edited by 28 Oct 2010, 06:56

      I try hard to get used to the default shortcuts.

      O for orbit, H for Hand, F for offset - those ones drive me nuts though. That is what the mouse is for. No need for shortcuts there. And I use follow me lots more than offset. Anyhow, that is why I always reset those shortcuts

      I also prefer q for rotate and r for rectangle. But I have finally gotten used to them being the opposite by default.

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        Gaieus
        last edited by 28 Oct 2010, 07:02

        @chris fullmer said:

        I also prefer q for rotate and r for rectangle. But I have finally gotten used to them being the opposite by default.

        Wait a minute, Chris, Q IS the default for Rotate and R IS the default for Rectangle (or am I misunderstanding something?).

        Gai...

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          thomthom
          last edited by 28 Oct 2010, 07:08

          @chris fullmer said:

          No need for shortcuts there.

          If I had enough keys on the keyboard, hands to reach them all and the memory for it I'd use shortcuts for everything. I loathe having to use the toolbar.

          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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            Chris Fullmer
            last edited by 28 Oct 2010, 07:19

            @gaieus said:

            @chris fullmer said:

            I also prefer q for rotate and r for rectangle. But I have finally gotten used to them being the opposite by default.

            Wait a minute, Chris, Q IS the default for Rotate and R IS the default for Rectangle (or am I misunderstanding something?).

            Hehe, oops. I got it backwards. I used to use R for rotate, and Q was an open key so I assigned it to rectangle (which I rarely use). Obviously I've gotten used to it how it is now, I can't even recall what is what anymore.

            @Thom +1!

            I also dislike the right click menu. Its like a toolbar I can't ever find anything on. (I use it to open entitiy info if its not open. I can always rememeber that one is at the top).

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              thomthom
              last edited by 28 Oct 2010, 07:23

              I do like the context-menu - but I want to be able to choose which items to have there. I've edited meny of the plugins I have to reduce the number of items down to just what I want. It is a very handy place to have semi-frequent command - always at the mouse position. It's the fifth position in Fitt's Law - the one which is the quickest to access.

              Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                Gaieus
                last edited by 28 Oct 2010, 07:25

                Well, Thom, my "bottleneck" seems to be memory as I still have free keys on my keyboard.
                πŸ˜†

                Gai...

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                  thomthom
                  last edited by 28 Oct 2010, 07:38

                  You can send over to me. Not that I have a good brain memory myself - but I think my muscle memory is better. Which is why I can't stand most of the keyboards that are sold these days - they all muck about with the key positions. Logitec, which used to have great keyboards messed up all their layouts. I got a Microsort keyboard ( I wanted a wireless one with mulitmedia keys as well ), but as it turns out, they also mucked about with the keys - not their position, but their size. ESC and the F1-12 buttons. grumble If only Logitech had provided updated drivers for my old keyboard ... and I could fix the connectors for the charger.
                  My kingdom for a decent keyboard!

                  </rant>

                  Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                    TIG Moderator
                    last edited by 28 Oct 2010, 08:24

                    I use most of the 'defaults', plus several of my own.
                    My main changes / additions are...

                    G=make-Group
                    B=make-component [it's Block in ACAD]
                    Alt+B=close-edit
                    D=tapemeasure-tool [Dimension in ACAD]
                    T=Text [as in ACAD]
                    Alt+T=Texture
                    Ctrl+D=Divide
                    H=Hide
                    Shift+H=unHide
                    Ctrl+Alt+H=Hide-rest-of-model-toggle
                    K=locK
                    Shift+K=unlocK
                    R=Rotate [as in ACAD]
                    Alt+R=Rectangle
                    Alt+Shift+R=3pt-Rectangle
                    Shift+R=miRRoR
                    Q=reverse-faces
                    Alt+Q=orient-faces
                    U=Unselect-sll
                    Ctrl+Shift+V=paste-in-place
                    J=weld [Join in ACAD]
                    =delete-all-guides

                    TIG

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                      EarthMover
                      last edited by 28 Oct 2010, 14:12

                      Very cool to see others shortcuts. A few I think I will adapt into my workflow. All seem very logic. This should also be a good thread to give new users a good idea for setting up their own shortcuts.

                      A few other I use all the time but forgot to add are -

                      Shift + V - Paste in place
                      Shift + H - Hide selection
                      Alt + H = Unhide selection
                      H = Show hidden geometry.

                      I think my most invaluable one is changing Z from the zoom tool to View last camera position. This is especially useful in an interior or when getting stuck in a wall. I just tap Z and I'm back where I was.

                      3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                      Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                      Content Creator at Skapeup

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                        thomthom
                        last edited by 28 Oct 2010, 14:18

                        I actually like and use the Zoom tool, it provides finer control than the mousewheel when I need it.

                        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                          Gaieus
                          last edited by 28 Oct 2010, 17:31

                          Zooming AND setting the FOV (with the Shift key).

                          Gai...

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                            Rich O Brien Moderator
                            last edited by 28 Oct 2010, 17:52

                            W = Weld
                            X = Explode
                            H = Hidden Geometry
                            O = Offset
                            F = Follow Me
                            Shift + G = Group
                            EEby..... = 1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9
                            CTRL + S = Fredoscale
                            V = Vertex Tools
                            Shift + O = Offset on Surface
                            Shift + L = Line on Surface
                            Shift + A = Arc on Surface
                            Shift + C = Circle on Surface
                            Shift + E = Erase on Surface

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                            • J Offline
                              jeff hammond
                              last edited by 28 Oct 2010, 21:07

                              I use all of the defaults (just became used to them over the years even if some aren't very logical.)
                              The self assigned ones are:

                              X - Xray
                              Shift X - Back edges
                              W - weld
                              Shift A- arc:center + 2pts
                              Shift H- hidden geometry
                              Shift V - paste in place
                              Shift B - B spline
                              U - follow me
                              J - jpp
                              Shift S - fredoscale
                              Shift space - select curve
                              Shift R - 3pt rectangle
                              Shift Z - zoom extents
                              V - protractor

                              dotdotdot

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                                jeff hammond
                                last edited by 28 Oct 2010, 21:22

                                [edit]
                                I made a [req] a while ago that I still think would be great.

                                Basically, I'd have a key or two [say #1 & 2] that I could assign to various tools depending on the project at hand.

                                Maybe I need to use fredostretch a lot for the day. I'd select stretch then maybe shift-1 and 1 would now be assigned to stretch. The next day I might need lathe quite a bit so I select the lathe tool then shift-1 and 1 is now lathe. And so on and so forth.

                                For some odd reason, it's just too big of an ordeal for me to do this via prefs so I just keep going to the icons. If this hot key idea were possible, I'm pretty sure I'd have shortcuts to lesser used functions much more often. (you know, the functions that you use once a month but when you do use them, you might use them 50 times)

                                dotdotdot

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                                  Wo3Dan
                                  last edited by 29 Oct 2010, 07:51

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  [edit]
                                  ..... Basically, I'd have a key or two [say #1 & 2] that I could assign to various tools depending on the project at hand.
                                  .......If this hot key idea were possible, I'm pretty sure I'd have shortcuts to lesser used functions much more often. (you know, the functions that you use once a month but when you do use them, you might use them 50 times)

                                  Hi Jeff,
                                  (not the perfect solution but) can't you do that with different shortcuts#1.dat to shortcuts#n.dat files. Depending on what you are planning for the day you import the appropriate *.dat file.
                                  I'm not sure whether you need to restart SU again or wheter it is implemented instantly. But at least you could import a whole bunch of "project depending" shortcuts at once.
                                  Once again, it's not perfect but it's worth a try.

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                                    jaceguay
                                    last edited by 29 Oct 2010, 11:19

                                    IΒ΄ve made some shortcuts like Blender. Most shortcuts are positioned for stationary left hand in the keyboard. πŸ˜„

                                    g = Move
                                    v = Line
                                    x = Delete
                                    z = Section Plane
                                    t = X-Ray
                                    u = Unhide selected
                                    h = Hide
                                    f = Orbit
                                    d = Pan
                                    s = Zoom
                                    a = Select none
                                    r = Rotate
                                    e = Eraser
                                    w = Reverse face
                                    q = Rectangle
                                    Shift+F = Push-Pull
                                    Shift+D = Tape measure Tool
                                    Shift+A = Arc
                                    Shift+E = Zoom extend
                                    Shift+R = Zoom window
                                    Shift+T = Fade rest of the model
                                    Shift+Y = Fade similar components
                                    Shift+W = Look arround
                                    Ctrl+F = Folow me
                                    Ctrl+R = Offset
                                    Ctrl+D = Scale

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                                      Jim
                                      last edited by 29 Oct 2010, 11:34

                                      @wo3dan said:

                                      can't you do that with different shortcuts#1.dat to shortcuts#n.dat files. Depending on what you are planning for the day you import the appropriate *.dat file.

                                      Nice idea Gerrit - it never occurred to me. I was thinking shortcut sets could be done using Windows registry hacks, similar to this .

                                      Hi

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                                        jeff hammond
                                        last edited by 29 Oct 2010, 13:35

                                        hey Gerrit

                                        on mac, this is possible via the .plist files as i keep these synced between 3 computers along with my plugin folder.
                                        i do that so everything remains consistent but if i felt so inclined, i could have fully different sets of shortcuts that i could load relatively easily depending on the task..

                                        that said, for the 1-2 variable hot keys, i think it would probably just be easier to assign them the normal way (but workflow wise, if it's not possible to script the hotkey idea, i guess i'll stick to using the toolbars/menus)

                                        dotdotdot

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                                          pyroluna
                                          last edited by 31 Oct 2010, 23:55

                                          I have just a few shortcuts, but I use them A Lot.

                                          F = Follow me
                                          D = Offset
                                          ` or Ctrl+F = Edit\item\zoom extents

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