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    Joint Push Pull Classic (Old version) - v2.2a - 26 Apr 17

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    • jeff hammondJ Offline
      jeff hammond
      last edited by

      oh, hey.
      one thing i keep meaning to ask you about JPP is if there's a way to make 'thickening' the default finishing method?

      dotdotdot

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      • CadFatherC Offline
        CadFather
        last edited by

        Thank you Fredo

        is this right? (line 122): JPP_DIR = "JPP_Dir"

        shouldn't it read 'JPP_Dir_15'

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        • fredo6F Offline
          fredo6
          last edited by

          @unknownuser said:

          oh, hey.
          one thing i keep meaning to ask you about JPP is if there's a way to make 'thickening' the default finishing method?

          JPP does not really have persistent options like some other scripts.
          However, you can edit the file jointpushpull_main.rb and, on line 386, replace the statement @option_finishing = 'D' by @option_finishing = 'R'

          Fredo

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          • fredo6F Offline
            fredo6
            last edited by

            @cadfather said:

            Thank you Fredo

            is this right? (line 122): JPP_DIR = "JPP_Dir"

            shouldn't it read 'JPP_Dir_15'

            Actually this should be on line 226 (in jointpushpull_main.rb)
            The statement is indeed useless now. I use another method to determine the right folder.

            Did you encounter problems?

            Fredo

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            • jeff hammondJ Offline
              jeff hammond
              last edited by

              @unknownuser said:

              JPP does not really have persistent options like some other scripts.
              However, you can edit the file jointpushpull_main.rb and, on line 386, replace the statement @option_finishing = 'D' by @option_finishing = 'R'

              Fredo

              perfect!
              thank you

              dotdotdot

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                DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ
                last edited by

                Thanks for the update.
                a question.
                pushpull may generate a single click of the mouse?
                Redo last is possible to use Push Pull, double click mouse? pushpull similar to sketchup
                pushpull you can add new? similar a SmartPushPull v0.26
                http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=23341

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                • T Offline
                  theark
                  last edited by

                  Thanks for Good job and great plug-in.

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                  • fredo6F Offline
                    fredo6
                    last edited by

                    @diego-rodriguez said:

                    Thanks for the update.
                    a question.
                    pushpull may generate a single click of the mouse?
                    Redo last is possible to use Push Pull, double click mouse? pushpull similar to sketchup
                    pushpull you can add new? similar a SmartPushPull v0.26
                    http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=23341

                    Diego,

                    I am not clear on your question. What do you request exactly?

                    Fredo

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
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                      I think that he is requesting that you can doubleclick a surface to repeat the last Push-Pull operation. Like the native Push-Pull where you double-click and it extrudes the faces you clicked the same distance as the previous PP.

                      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                      • CadFatherC Offline
                        CadFather
                        last edited by

                        @unknownuser said:

                        Did you encounter problems?
                        Fredo

                        No i didn't, in fact the script seems smoother than before.. πŸ˜„

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                          DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ
                          last edited by

                          @thomthom said:

                          I think that he is requesting that you can doubleclick a surface to repeat the last Push-Pull operation. Like the native Push-Pull where you double-click and it extrudes the faces you clicked the same distance as the previous PP.

                          yes πŸ˜„
                          or can be "shift + click mouse"

                          and other questios is:

                          and to generate pushpull. now you have to do:
                          selcted face + three click with mouse
                          can be changed to :
                          selected face + two click with mouse
                          similar to native sketchup.

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                          • EarthMoverE Offline
                            EarthMover
                            last edited by

                            @unknownuser said:

                            @unknownuser said:

                            oh, hey.
                            one thing i keep meaning to ask you about JPP is if there's a way to make 'thickening' the default finishing method?

                            JPP does not really have persistent options like some other scripts.
                            However, you can edit the file jointpushpull_main.rb and, on line 386, replace the statement @option_finishing = 'D' by @option_finishing = 'R'

                            Fredo

                            πŸ‘ Thanks...big help as I only ever use thickening also.

                            3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                            Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                            Content Creator at Skapeup

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                            • fredo6F Offline
                              fredo6
                              last edited by

                              @diego-rodriguez said:

                              @thomthom said:

                              I think that he is requesting that you can doubleclick a surface to repeat the last Push-Pull operation. Like the native Push-Pull where you double-click and it extrudes the faces you clicked the same distance as the previous PP.

                              yes πŸ˜„
                              or can be "shift + click mouse"

                              and other questios is:

                              and to generate pushpull. now you have to do:
                              selcted face + three click with mouse
                              can be changed to :
                              selected face + two click with mouse
                              similar to native sketchup.

                              JointPushPull would deserve a more natural interface mode, I agree. I'll see what I can do, because that may not so simple, and anyway I had the intention to re-engineer it more in the style of my more recent plugins.

                              Fred

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                              • EdsonE Offline
                                Edson
                                last edited by

                                is JPP 1.5 for SU8 only or will it work with 7.1?

                                edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre β€’ brasil
                                http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                                • thomthomT Offline
                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by

                                  @edson said:

                                  is JPP 1.5 for SU8 only or will it work with 7.1?

                                  works for SU7 as well

                                  Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                  • jim smithJ Offline
                                    jim smith
                                    last edited by

                                    Thank you Fredo πŸ‘ great tool that gets a lot of use.

                                    "Out of clutter find simplicity,
                                    from discord find harmony,
                                    In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity"
                                    Albert Einstein

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                                      weiqi66
                                      last edited by

                                      Thank you Fredo πŸ‘ great tool that gets a lot of use.

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                                      • DavidBoulderD Offline
                                        DavidBoulder
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                                        I've been playing with Joint Push pull on some relatively simple non orthogonal but simple objects (still just six sided objects). I was surprised to see when I changed my cube to something non orthogonal and then performed a JPP my newly made faces and edges were not parallel to their original elements.

                                        Reading into the documentation I think that is because Joint Push pull gets the vector for the new point from the average of the three points. This seems perfect on orthogonal objects, or maybe even symmetrically angled objects, but not when asymmetrical angles are introduced. I made an asymmetrically tapered cube and used the standard SketchUp push/pull to extrude the faces out by 24 inches. Based on an earlier test I confirmed that the new Joint Push Pull line is on a vector from the original point through the center of a triangle of the three points generated by the push pull. The distance between the original point and the new point is 2' 8-5/16" (I assume the length is optimized to minimize the change in the position or normal of the three planes). I then used a different method to generate the desired new shape. I drew lines for each pair of faces showing where they would intersect if they had been extended. These lines all meet at a point which represents the ideal location for the new point. It allows the other planes to stay exactly where they should be. 24" away from the original faces (and still parallel). Incidentally the distance between the original and new point with this method is 2' 8'11/16".

                                        Would it be possible to have an alternate method for JPP that worked in this way. I suppose it may be slower, first have to determine the implied intersection lines for each pair of adjacent faces, and then where they intersect, but I think the results would be very clean. In theory (as long as your push pull distance was not too large to create problems) you could JPP a selection of surfaces in by 24 inches, and then back out by 24 inches with almost perfect alignment (minus rounding errors) to your original geometry. Maybe this won't work in all cases, but for the times it will work it could provide better results. I think it is better for boxy shapes vs. highly faceted surfaces (if making them smaller vs. larger).

                                        I have attached a close up image of a intersection showing standard SketchUp push/pull and then the new point generated by a JPP operation or and a new point generated by my implied intersection method.


                                        SketchUp file that screenshot was from. This shows my workflow a bit more.

                                        --

                                        David Goldwasser
                                        OpenStudio Developer
                                        National Renewable Energy Laboratory

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                                        • P Offline
                                          pmolsen
                                          last edited by

                                          Any chance of a new option to thicken a wall on both sides and delete the original wall in one step please?

                                          Would allow for example tracing the centreline of a complex wall from Google Earth, (eg. the walls of a house) then thickening it in one step.

                                          At present it is difficult to achieve. You have to thicken it in one direction by half, then thicken it the other way by the same amount. Problem is when you do the second step it leaves the original faces there, or at least the outlines, even if you specify delete original faces, meaning you wind up with a line down the centreline of the wall top and bottom which you then have to delete. For a long complex wall that can be painful.

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                                          • P Offline
                                            pmolsen
                                            last edited by

                                            Another request please. An option to say borders on external faces EXCEPT THE BOTTOM FACE. When thickening a wall for example, a face on the bottom is often not wanted since it will be sitting flat on the Google Earth surface.

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