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    • fredo6F Offline
      fredo6
      last edited by

      NEW RELEASE
      version 1.5 - 02 Sep 10: maintenance release for SU8

      • Suppress some warning (though harmless) messages in the Ruby console
      • JPP now installs itself as an extension of Sketchup (can be disabled / enabled via the Windows > Preferences > Extension dialog
      • Spanish translation - Thanks to Defisto

      See main post for download.

      Note: Because JoinPushPull shares LibTraductor.rb with BezierSpline 1.4, it is also advised to upgrade to BezierSpline 1.4 - 02 Sep 10 (so you have the same version of LibTraductor.rb, dated 31 Aug 10). See Main post of BezierSpline 1.4 for download.

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      • jeff hammondJ Offline
        jeff hammond
        last edited by

        oh, hey.
        one thing i keep meaning to ask you about JPP is if there's a way to make 'thickening' the default finishing method?

        dotdotdot

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        • CadFatherC Offline
          CadFather
          last edited by

          Thank you Fredo

          is this right? (line 122): JPP_DIR = "JPP_Dir"

          shouldn't it read 'JPP_Dir_15'

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          • fredo6F Offline
            fredo6
            last edited by

            @unknownuser said:

            oh, hey.
            one thing i keep meaning to ask you about JPP is if there's a way to make 'thickening' the default finishing method?

            JPP does not really have persistent options like some other scripts.
            However, you can edit the file jointpushpull_main.rb and, on line 386, replace the statement @option_finishing = 'D' by @option_finishing = 'R'

            Fredo

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            • fredo6F Offline
              fredo6
              last edited by

              @cadfather said:

              Thank you Fredo

              is this right? (line 122): JPP_DIR = "JPP_Dir"

              shouldn't it read 'JPP_Dir_15'

              Actually this should be on line 226 (in jointpushpull_main.rb)
              The statement is indeed useless now. I use another method to determine the right folder.

              Did you encounter problems?

              Fredo

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              • jeff hammondJ Offline
                jeff hammond
                last edited by

                @unknownuser said:

                JPP does not really have persistent options like some other scripts.
                However, you can edit the file jointpushpull_main.rb and, on line 386, replace the statement @option_finishing = 'D' by @option_finishing = 'R'

                Fredo

                perfect!
                thank you

                dotdotdot

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                  DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ
                  last edited by

                  Thanks for the update.
                  a question.
                  pushpull may generate a single click of the mouse?
                  Redo last is possible to use Push Pull, double click mouse? pushpull similar to sketchup
                  pushpull you can add new? similar a SmartPushPull v0.26
                  http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=23341

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                  • T Offline
                    theark
                    last edited by

                    Thanks for Good job and great plug-in.

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                    • fredo6F Offline
                      fredo6
                      last edited by

                      @diego-rodriguez said:

                      Thanks for the update.
                      a question.
                      pushpull may generate a single click of the mouse?
                      Redo last is possible to use Push Pull, double click mouse? pushpull similar to sketchup
                      pushpull you can add new? similar a SmartPushPull v0.26
                      http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=23341

                      Diego,

                      I am not clear on your question. What do you request exactly?

                      Fredo

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                      • thomthomT Offline
                        thomthom
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                        I think that he is requesting that you can doubleclick a surface to repeat the last Push-Pull operation. Like the native Push-Pull where you double-click and it extrudes the faces you clicked the same distance as the previous PP.

                        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                        • CadFatherC Offline
                          CadFather
                          last edited by

                          @unknownuser said:

                          Did you encounter problems?
                          Fredo

                          No i didn't, in fact the script seems smoother than before.. πŸ˜„

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                            DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ
                            last edited by

                            @thomthom said:

                            I think that he is requesting that you can doubleclick a surface to repeat the last Push-Pull operation. Like the native Push-Pull where you double-click and it extrudes the faces you clicked the same distance as the previous PP.

                            yes πŸ˜„
                            or can be "shift + click mouse"

                            and other questios is:

                            and to generate pushpull. now you have to do:
                            selcted face + three click with mouse
                            can be changed to :
                            selected face + two click with mouse
                            similar to native sketchup.

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                            • EarthMoverE Offline
                              EarthMover
                              last edited by

                              @unknownuser said:

                              @unknownuser said:

                              oh, hey.
                              one thing i keep meaning to ask you about JPP is if there's a way to make 'thickening' the default finishing method?

                              JPP does not really have persistent options like some other scripts.
                              However, you can edit the file jointpushpull_main.rb and, on line 386, replace the statement @option_finishing = 'D' by @option_finishing = 'R'

                              Fredo

                              πŸ‘ Thanks...big help as I only ever use thickening also.

                              3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                              Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                              Content Creator at Skapeup

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                              • fredo6F Offline
                                fredo6
                                last edited by

                                @diego-rodriguez said:

                                @thomthom said:

                                I think that he is requesting that you can doubleclick a surface to repeat the last Push-Pull operation. Like the native Push-Pull where you double-click and it extrudes the faces you clicked the same distance as the previous PP.

                                yes πŸ˜„
                                or can be "shift + click mouse"

                                and other questios is:

                                and to generate pushpull. now you have to do:
                                selcted face + three click with mouse
                                can be changed to :
                                selected face + two click with mouse
                                similar to native sketchup.

                                JointPushPull would deserve a more natural interface mode, I agree. I'll see what I can do, because that may not so simple, and anyway I had the intention to re-engineer it more in the style of my more recent plugins.

                                Fred

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                                • EdsonE Offline
                                  Edson
                                  last edited by

                                  is JPP 1.5 for SU8 only or will it work with 7.1?

                                  edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre β€’ brasil
                                  http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                                  • thomthomT Offline
                                    thomthom
                                    last edited by

                                    @edson said:

                                    is JPP 1.5 for SU8 only or will it work with 7.1?

                                    works for SU7 as well

                                    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                    • jim smithJ Offline
                                      jim smith
                                      last edited by

                                      Thank you Fredo πŸ‘ great tool that gets a lot of use.

                                      "Out of clutter find simplicity,
                                      from discord find harmony,
                                      In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity"
                                      Albert Einstein

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                                        weiqi66
                                        last edited by

                                        Thank you Fredo πŸ‘ great tool that gets a lot of use.

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                                        • DavidBoulderD Offline
                                          DavidBoulder
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                                          I've been playing with Joint Push pull on some relatively simple non orthogonal but simple objects (still just six sided objects). I was surprised to see when I changed my cube to something non orthogonal and then performed a JPP my newly made faces and edges were not parallel to their original elements.

                                          Reading into the documentation I think that is because Joint Push pull gets the vector for the new point from the average of the three points. This seems perfect on orthogonal objects, or maybe even symmetrically angled objects, but not when asymmetrical angles are introduced. I made an asymmetrically tapered cube and used the standard SketchUp push/pull to extrude the faces out by 24 inches. Based on an earlier test I confirmed that the new Joint Push Pull line is on a vector from the original point through the center of a triangle of the three points generated by the push pull. The distance between the original point and the new point is 2' 8-5/16" (I assume the length is optimized to minimize the change in the position or normal of the three planes). I then used a different method to generate the desired new shape. I drew lines for each pair of faces showing where they would intersect if they had been extended. These lines all meet at a point which represents the ideal location for the new point. It allows the other planes to stay exactly where they should be. 24" away from the original faces (and still parallel). Incidentally the distance between the original and new point with this method is 2' 8'11/16".

                                          Would it be possible to have an alternate method for JPP that worked in this way. I suppose it may be slower, first have to determine the implied intersection lines for each pair of adjacent faces, and then where they intersect, but I think the results would be very clean. In theory (as long as your push pull distance was not too large to create problems) you could JPP a selection of surfaces in by 24 inches, and then back out by 24 inches with almost perfect alignment (minus rounding errors) to your original geometry. Maybe this won't work in all cases, but for the times it will work it could provide better results. I think it is better for boxy shapes vs. highly faceted surfaces (if making them smaller vs. larger).

                                          I have attached a close up image of a intersection showing standard SketchUp push/pull and then the new point generated by a JPP operation or and a new point generated by my implied intersection method.


                                          SketchUp file that screenshot was from. This shows my workflow a bit more.

                                          --

                                          David Goldwasser
                                          OpenStudio Developer
                                          National Renewable Energy Laboratory

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                                          • P Offline
                                            pmolsen
                                            last edited by

                                            Any chance of a new option to thicken a wall on both sides and delete the original wall in one step please?

                                            Would allow for example tracing the centreline of a complex wall from Google Earth, (eg. the walls of a house) then thickening it in one step.

                                            At present it is difficult to achieve. You have to thicken it in one direction by half, then thicken it the other way by the same amount. Problem is when you do the second step it leaves the original faces there, or at least the outlines, even if you specify delete original faces, meaning you wind up with a line down the centreline of the wall top and bottom which you then have to delete. For a long complex wall that can be painful.

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