OK. Do you fancy a car running on an air?? It is not a joke.

You are right. Friction is minimised. Like in a levitron:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv8msBamA3M

The idea is great, but.. it has one important flaw ...
how long can one keep his arm straight without any support?
Shouldn't you put your monitor flat (I am talking about first video technique).

Tomasz

EDITED: Gathered all important samples together + one above.

USA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qaCk0jK--8s

USA - 2nd example
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jt5z8L4LBJE

Hungary\Canada
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vDeXTXYFKAY

This is also worth seeing.
FAST ELECTRIC HEATER - Efficency = 170% ??!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yh_-DUKQ4Uw&feature=related
http://youtube.com/watch?v=V0M2GnQluJk&feature=related

@goon of doom said:

ecologically speaking batteries are not good. As for the Zero point topic Data can be misleading. If you factor the sum total of its parts vs the projected service life what most fail to acknowledge is the agrigate total after the manufacturing process in some cases is way worse than the supposed gains.

I will explain how I understand principles of SURGE TECHNOLOGY motor. All parts are assembled this way that they minimise friction due to usage of a magnetic field to separate moving parts. The only force required to run this motor forever (ok, say 25+ years ) is the force to spin the rotor fast enough to allow magnetic field keeping it spinning for a loooong period. Please note there is NO friction between parts. Everyone knows it well that you require very little power to keep something in motion.

Goon, you have mentioned batteries. They are not necessary. Please check video USA2. The inventor is spinning it just with his finger, then he uses the additional motor powered by low voltage battery to accelerate it to a required speed. It can be accelerated using same mechanism say like in a bicycle. It doesn't matter - even if electricity is required it can come from renewable source. ONCE ENGINE IS SPINNING IT WILL RUN FOR A LOOONG TIME. I am amazed - it would mean that the car Troy Reed is running on this motor can travel continuously along whole USA without charging!!!

I can still hardly believe it is a truth, but there are too many samples of similar devices. I probably build my own one - so simple as in USA sample, just to verify it (I like physics ).

Tomasz

Ok. Stop hijacking this thread. Open your own called 'Solo vs Goon'.
You can start a pool as well.

JAPAN
Practical use of permanent\electro-magnetic motor in a motorbike. They don't have fossil fuels so they are desperately looking for alternatives.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUXhJZZRUIg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_41btVawMc

@remus said:

solo, its not my topic by any means!

Neither mine. Wouldn't you both try using PMs ?

Thanks a lot Fredo! Great work!

@unknownuser said:

Nikola Tesla
Tesla 'Harnesses' Cosmic Energy

Inventor Announces Discovery of Power to Displace Fuel in Driving Machinery

Calls Sun Main Source

A principle by which power for driving the machinery of the world may be de­rived from the cosmic energy which operates the universe, has been discovered by Nikola Tesla, noted physicist and inventor of scientific devices, he announced today.

This principle, which taps a source of power described as "everywhere present in unlimited quantities" and which may be transmitted by wire or wireless from cen­tral plants to any part of the globe, will eliminate the need of coal, oil, gas or any other of the common fuels, he said.

Dr. Tesla in a statement today at his hotel indicated the time was not far dis­tant when the principle would be ready for practical commercial development.

Asked whether the sudden introduction of his principle would upset the present economic system, Dr. Tesla replied, "It is badly upset already." He added that now as never before was the time ripe for the development of new resources.

While in its present form the theory calls for the development of the energy in central plants requiring vast machinery, Dr. Tesla said he might be able to work out a plan for its use by individuals.

The central source of cosmic energy for the earth is the sun, Dr. Tesla said, but "night will not interrupt the flow of the new power supply."

• Philadelphia Public Ledger — November 2, 1933

Are We ready for the Global shift? I don't think so, but it looks it is inevitable.

We are living in times when Quantum Physics, old 'Ether' ideas and meta-physics are being melted together to create some unique uniform science - not a separate disciplines - but all combined. Really interesting.

@unknownuser said:

I believe that magnets envoke cancer and interfer with the ammune system. Figure that one out for me....cheers!!

Do not demonise it. It all depends on the strength of the field. Probably we will encounter different kind of 'issues' when it will get under our roofs, but I believe they would be handled much easier than current pollution and radioactive wastes. Zero Point Energy, as they call it, exists everywhere in a space. It is 'just' a matter of harnessing it. Does the name Nicola TESLA tell you anything? Check the wikipedia.
Hi started his discoveries in 19th century and he believed we can find 'free' energy.

The light is also an electro-magnetic radiation of a wavelength that is visible to the human eye.

@unknownuser said:

But for now I still believe that getting something from nothing is in the category of magic.

It is not Nothing - Xrays were also unknown and radio waves and.. I can multiple examples.
Magnetic field has to be taken more seriously. It simply removes the necessity of those parts of engines which cause a lot of friction.

Here comes another solution from USA:
Is it a coincidence?? No, it can't be.
USA - 2nd example
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jt5z8L4LBJE

@remus said:

When we are all reaping the benefits of free energy i will gladly buy you a beer for your troubles, but untill then i think its a myth.

It will take some time. It is just a beginning. You will say I am too naive. Time will tell.
This technology is too simple to stop it for being employed for our benefit.

You are right that permanent magnets have some defined lifespan, but AFAIK it is >100 years.
They do not like to be overheated (above 200C).I don't think when used in such a device they would wear off much faster.

@remus said:

Permenant magnets also require a lot of energy in their manufacture, which further reduces any claimed gains.

It is simply not true. Even neodymium-iron-boron (NIB)magnets are not expensive.

ESTRACT FROM WIKIPEDIA:
Costs:
The current cheapest permanent magnets, allowing for field strengths, are flexible and ceramic magnets, however these are also among the weakest types. Of the strong magnets neodymium-iron-boron (NIB) magnets. These magnets are more expensive than most other magnetic materials per kg, but due to their intense field are smaller and cheaper in many applications.

You can buy those powerful magnets for 0.60 cents. Is it expensive?

The guy from fist video would like to sell his generator for ca 5,000$ (AU?). It is not free energy.. but very cheap.

What I have gathered here are the links showing devices based on similar principles coming from around Globe - Australia, Hungary\Canada, USA. The Hungarian solution has been build by professional engineers not by an enthusiast.

@remus said:

if this is free energy why is the world not crawling all over it?

It is relatively new invention, still being developed.

@remus said:

I dont really get the link.

It is just a sample of similar device based on same principles.
I cannot comment on the efficiency, I don't hear him mentioning it, but I am not a native speaker and sound quality is really poor.

Check this link - for a simple explanation of the principles.
USA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qaCk0jK--8s

This solution has been scaled up in previously mentioned examples.

It is good to see someone who disbelieves..

Something more engineered for you Remus:

Hungary\Canada
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vDeXTXYFKAY

or

After six years of development..
Revolutionary generator. It has an efficiency > 1.0 !
It means if produces more energy that is being used to kick it off.
There are plenty similar devices on Youtube, but not so advanced.

AUSTRALIA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=efCelx7qe_M

Same idea in Philipines - H20 >> H & O
Real car. I hope oil companies won't manage to stop it.

Unbelievable.

I've got something even better, still talking about cars..

ELECTRIC VEHICLE SURGE TECHNOLOGY

Car on Water (and electricity)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6yRn4IAsrU
How:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8stApCmxYEM

EDIT. Links updated. Previous were wrong. Sorry.

Hi Alex,

Your sample code looks fine for me. Could you post a simple model showing wrong coordination's readout?

Tomasz