You might be better of looking in to google earth and sketchup, as thats what google seems to be promoting sketchup for (at least it was last time i checked, been out of the loop for a while.)

@michaliszissiou said:

What is this? A joke? Go tell this to people who are working in mines, in industry, in hospitals. Tell it to policemen, to firemen, to professional soldiers, to non professional solders. To seamen.

All industries where a degree of risk is inherent (its never going to be safe to send people thousands of meters underground to operate heavy machinery in confined spaces, and the workers accept this.) Whereas its very easy to eradicate the risks caused by smokers to resteraunt workers. Just because theres risks inherent in every part of life theres no need to exasperate them where its easily controllable.

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4 year old kid being sued for crashing in to an old woman during a bike race, causing injuries that led to the womans death. Its just plain old stupid. Im sure the kids going to feel guilty enough as it is without dragging them through a lengthy legal process that will ultimately change nothing.

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It really pisses me off that the reporter is so short sighted as to try and turn it in to an interview about the accusations levelled at one man when the real questions are around the tens of thousands of civilians who have been killed.

in case you forget what goes where?

theres instructions on how to install it at the bottom of the first post.

thats awesome boo

@unknownuser said:

Protocol Buffers are a way of encoding structured data in an efficient yet
extensible format. Google uses Protocol Buffers for almost all of its internal
RPC protocols and file formats.

This library has two components: a compiler to turn <tt>.proto</tt> definitions
into Ruby modules (extension <tt>.pb.rb</tt>), and a runtime to use protocol
buffers defined by these modules. The compiler relies on Google's C++ based
compiler (+protoc+) for much of the heavy lifting -- this has huge advantages in
ensuring compatibility and correctness.

This library is heavily optimized for encoding and decoding speed. There is a
small C extension available in the ext/ dir that will improve performance even
further, but it is currently disabled to avoid rubygems having to compile a
native extension. TODO: anybody know if we can make this optional?

Because this is a tool for generating code, the RDoc documentation is a bit
unusual. See the text in the ProtocolBuffers::Message class for details on what
code is generated.

Certainly sounds interesting.

Another point: activities such as climbing and motor biking can significantly enhance someone's life in the long term. This is likely to be quite the opposite for smoking. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_effects_of_tobacco#Health_effects

@tig said:

Drinking and gambling are as addictive as smoking and probably as harmful to the user and those around them.
Riding a motor-bike is far more dangerous than using a car or bus - and 'hurting yourself' isn't the full story as 'society' has to take care of you afterwards... if you climb a mountain and are hurt many risk their safety to save you and again it 'costs' - all forms of transport produce pollution affecting all ? So why are some things allowable and some not ?
There is no clear logic to most of it. . .

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Alcohol and gambling are not inherently addictive, although some people are addicted to them. That is not the case with smoking.

I'd argue that climbing, motor biking etc. should be allowable as they are all controlled risk. It is up to the person doing it how much risk they incur. For example, i could go out climbing every day for 50 years and not have a single accident if i wanted to (although it would probably get pretty boring.) This is not the case with smoking. It is always detrimental to a persons health, and furthermore it is addictive and will keep damaging a persons health until they make a large and concious effort to stop smoking.

@tig said:

Smoking is obviously bad... but it's probably on a par with drinking beer, riding a motor-bike or mountain-climbing - in terms of 'general risk' and 'poor outcome'...

All poor analogies in my opinion. When riding a motor bike and climbing the risk is controllable to a large extent, where as with smoking no matter what you do it isn't good for your health.

Obviously drinking is slightly different, but then drinking isnt addictive (for the vast majority of people.)

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Doesnt mention anything about being pro-specific here: http://code.google.com/apis/sketchup/docs/downloadsdksubmit.html

Im pretty sure thats not a pro only feature, can only be a good thing though.

@jason_maranto said:

2. Requires Sketchup Pro

Didnt realise that, any ideas why thats the case?

Sorry for the off topic post Dragoon

http://sketchupdate.blogspot.com/2010/10/hi-res-tool-icons-for-sketchup-and.html

Thought this might be useful for a few people.

I use one with sketchup, and as box said its pretty much the same as a mouse. With mine i've set one of the buttons on the pen as the middle mouse button, so you can still orbit/pan without having to switch tools in SU. You still need to switch to the zoom tool, though.

@dave r said:

The instructor called it "Shooting the monkey."

Presumably from the example "If a hunter is aiming at a monkey, and the monkey lets go of the branch at the same time as the hunter fires his shot, will the monkey be hit?"