@rv1974 said:

Kirill thank you for your efforts- very promising tools
P.S. I'd make your videos X1.5-2 times faster, будет намного веселее

Thanks for your compliment!
Initially I used speed acceleration for some of demo-videos, but then I've been reported, that accelerated speed confuses viewer (even when I mention about acceleration somehow in video description). So I decided at last not to mess with speed of a footage in order to demonstrate actual processing performance.
It would be more funny if I'll make plugins work faster instead of making videos faster

@thomthom said:

• but please show some respect.

Thomas thank you for that
But actually vojo is right: it would be nice at least to mark (in some more or less obvious manner) things, which became obsolete. Erasing posts or attachments or any other erasing maybe an unsafe action, but marking is totally OK and it would inform a user an obvious way.
As for this particular thread, I edited the original post to inform people that it became obsolete and provided a link to a new thread and I'll do the same thing with all other obsolete plugins I posted here right now.
I think the good karma is to be responsible for what I've made no matter how I offer results of my efforts (for free or not)

I don't even know how to call this coincidence maybe a kind of synchronicity... I mean a few weeks ago the idea to make custom UI library based on view.draw method suddenly came to my mind. And I even started to code it Actually I needed a kind of adjustment curve editing control for one of my tools and since I didn't find any javascript ready made widget I decided to make my own control based on view.draw...
I think it would be interesting to take a look at the result in a video: http://youtu.be/QLfI1McLMa0?hd=1 (skip to 1:08 to view 'Control Curve' window).
In short, now I think there is no need to continue coding my own library since OnScreen GUI Toolkit is already exist . I'll try to adapt 'Control Curve' control in it and post result here if you don't mind.
Thanks for sharing your library

@thomthom said:

@kirill2008 said:

It will be an alternative to standard UI class of Sketchup API and to WebDialog class.

Have you seen Aerilius' libary?
http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=47605

No I haven't seen, unfortunately... Looks like I don't need to raise my own library

@thomthom said:

@kirill2008 said:

(for example non-decimal model units issue).

You mean comma vs period?

I mean when distance string has quote and double quote sign and "/" sign at the same time (when model units are set to feet and inches). The point is that if I send raw distance value in SU internal units (decimal inches) to web-dialog, then I need to implement 'format_length' and 'parse_length' analogs on java-script side, so I send formatted length string to web-dialog. It's OK if model units are set to decimal (no matter metric or not), but if formatted string contains quote, double-quote and "/" sign (for fractional part), then it becomes non-obvious task to send such strings back and forth...
BTW I read your blog fairly often so I read your article about dealing with units a while ago and it really helped. But the point is I didn't find any hints in it how to let user edit formatted length string in a web-dialog, then send this information from web-dialog to ruby and this appears to be the most tricky part...

The last few weeks I was deeply involved in the implementation of alternative user interface for Sketchup tools so I did not answer to new posts...

@driven said:

Webkit reported errors so I changed lss_common.js, just syntax
Changed show()to show_modal() for mac use.

So does it mean that there is light at the end of the tunnel for mac users? I mean I lost any hope that 'LSS Toolbar' can be adapted to run on mac.

@thomthom said:

Here is a method I use that allows me to use instructor content wihtout placing the files in the SU folder.

Thomas thanks a lot I think I'll use the same method too for next update if you don't mind

Little announcement:
I just want to inform that I'm going to suspend 'LSS Toolbar' development for a while, since now I need to raise a kind of library with custom UI graphic controls for all previously made plugins/extensions. It will be an alternative to standard UI class of Sketchup API and to WebDialog class. Here is a video where it is possible to take a look at how such custom control looks like (skip to 1:08 for preview)
http://youtu.be/QLfI1McLMa0
[flash=560,315:23rrabxa]http://www.youtube.com/v/QLfI1McLMa0?version=3&hl=ru_RU[/flash:23rrabxa]
I decided to get rid of WebDialog class so all issues caused by ruby-javascript communication will be immediately solved (for example non-decimal model units issue). But since I want to keep web-dialog flexibility then standard UI class is not an option, that's why I decided to make custom UI library.

@rumcajs said:

I have tested your LLS toolbar and have few questions and suggestions.

Thanks for valuable feedback and new ideas. Chaining idea is cool
Speaking of 'Coating idea', you may try 'Stick Group' tool of 'LSS Toolbar' for this purpose (not sure about clothes modelling, but it is possible to apply some flat decoration on free formed surface not high poly though...)

@guanjin said:

There is a problem:
The joint can not be changed, thank you!

Looks like it caused by localization. Please open ruby console and send an error message from it, so I'll be able to find the problem.

@schnydix said:

скажите есть-ли русская версия вашего LSS Toolbar, Вы ведь владеете русским?!

Русской версии пока что нет. Планирую исправить те недочеты, которые выявятся в ходе тестирования бета-версии, после этого приступить к локализации.

@majid said:

is there any conflict by Fredo06's truepaint?.... it is not working anymore...
Edit: removed the LSS toolbar and it;s components and fredo06 truepaint works again

That's strange. LSS Toolbar does not override any methods, so it may be blocked itself by other plugins (like SketchyPhysics, which overrides 'copy' method of 'Group') but it's very unlikely that LSS Toolbar blocks other plugins...
Anyway, you may temporarily disable LSS Toolbar without uninstalling it. LSS Toolbar is an extension (you can assume that extension is a kind of manageable plugin), so you may uncheck it in 'System Preferences' dialog instead of removing of all files and folders:

It is a temporary solution, of course. Please, send report from ruby console when truepaint refuses to work with LSS Toolbar enabled, so it will be possible to find out what is the problem.

Good news: here is a bit fixed version https://dl.dropbox.com/u/44695539/lss_toolbar/lss_toolbar_2_0_beta_1.zip
It works better with non-decimal model units plus it has some new functionality:
[flash=560,315:dx5szeyq]http://www.youtube.com/v/zuNA_Lr5gyQ?version=3&hl=ru_RU[/flash:dx5szeyq]

@sherwood11 said:

Just an observation, note or a bug ? with the Follow Edges tool ...

It is a bug... And I'm afraid this error will raise in other tools as well with the units format (in Model Info) set to 'Architectural'. Thanks for reporting

Small Announcement (29-Jan-2017)
Note that currently there are no plans to continue development of LSS Toolbar extension so it is highly recommended look for some other alternatives, which have a similar functionality and compatible with recent versions of SketchUp.

Link to download lss_toolbar_2_0_beta.zip
[flash=560,315:1rff2w3e]http://www.youtube.com/v/-Nv0lV94O5Y?version=3&hl=ru_RU[/flash:1rff2w3e]
LSS Toolbar is a SketchUp extension. It provides a set of tools for advanced geometry creation and manipulation.

Installation

• download lss_toolbar_2_0_beta.zip
• unpack contents of «Plugins» subfolder into SketchUp «Plugins» subfolder
• unpack contents of «Resources» subfolder into SketchUp «Resources» subfolder
  

Toolbar Enabling

• Sketchup Main Menu>> Veiw>> Toolbars>> LSS Toolbar

Note

• current version runs under Windows only
• some certain tools conflict with SketchyPhysics plugin

Visit LSS Toolbar web-site for more information

Ver. 2.0 beta 1
Link to download lss_toolbar_2_0_beta_1.zip

• non-decimal model units fix
• obtain point cloud added

Ver. 2.0 beta 2
Link to download lss_toolbar_2_0_beta_2.zip

• control curve for '2 Faces + Path' tool added

Installation package without user manuals

Here is an archive with currently implemented stage:
lss_toolbar_2_0_pre_alpha_9.zip
(Just in case if drop-box link does not work...)
NOTE: it is not a complete set yet, since it is still under construction (it is 'pre-alpha' version), so use it at your own risk.
'Stick Group' tool is the last one in 'LSS Toolbar 2.0', so now I started testing and documenting the whole thing. It will take some time to complete this stage and publish 'beta-version', so I plan to disappear for a while (I mean I won't broadcast new hilarious demo videos for a while).

I just live it here...
[flash=530,315:fkl0g14l]http://www.youtube.com/v/gT-8NyvR3D0?version=3&hl=ru_RU[/flash:fkl0g14l]

@mitcorb said:

I may have to watch it another couple of hundred times...

200 views per one viewer, that's how I'll finally become popular on YouTube
in 'science/technology' category I mean
Actually I was trying to keep things simple, but it looks like I have to try more efficiently... Because it is still not obvious for end user, how everything works . The final goal is to make tool processing so intuitive that one would not need to watch tutorial 200+ times

If someone still interested in this plugin, then, I guess, this video will be interesting too:
[flash=560,315:38wj9eza]http://www.youtube.com/v/dXHJSEXn86Y?version=3&hl=ru_RU[/flash:38wj9eza]

@pbacot said:

Thankyou! How does one learn to use the tool (LSS toolbar)? I am just guessing and clicking and getting no results so far. Also the text fields are solid black.

I plan to make manuals after functionality update completion: there are 2 more tools are to be added in 'LSS Toolbar' and after their addition I'll start testing and documenting this plugin.
The reason, that 'LSS Toolbar' does not work on mac is that settings-dialog forms are not adapted yet for displaying by 'Safari' (default macOS browser, which SU uses to display web-dialog forms). I use pc at work and at home, so it'll be a bit tricky for me personally to make these dialog-forms work on mac too, but I'll try to do it anyway.

@notareal said:

Nice update!

Actually update is still under construction, I was just excited about the way it works and decided to share current stage

BTW, I'm a huge fan of Kerkythea I use it very extensively and I'm very very happy with it!

I decided to make 'pnts2mesh.rb' a part of 'LSS Toolbar'. This project is still under construction, but here you can take a look at how modernized version of 'pnts2mesh.rb' will finally work (skip to 5:30 for 'pnts2mesh.rb' revival demonstration).
[flash=560,315:rgpkvorn]http://www.youtube.com/v/8nbMaKKNkm8?version=3&hl=ru_RU[/flash:rgpkvorn]
For now 'pre-alpha' version of 'LSS Toolbar' is available. Unfortunately it won't work on mac again... I need to find out how to adapt web-dialogs for 'Safari'. It'll take some time...

lss_toolbar_2_0_pre_alpha_5.zip

I think it would be interesting to check out the video of 'crvsmth.rb' revival:
[flash=560,315:3r34p2is]http://www.youtube.com/v/8nbMaKKNkm8?version=3&hl=ru_RU[/flash:3r34p2is]
Finally I decided to reanimate this ancient 'scripture' and make its use more intuitive this time... So now it is adapted into modernized 'LSS Toolbar' infrastructure and its reincarnation name is 'Recursively Smoothed Curve' tool.
For now 'pre-alpha' version of 'LSS Toolbar' is available. Feel free to use it at your own risk.

lss_toolbar_2_0_pre_alpha_5.zip

@dave r said:

Interesting, Kirill. The first try gave me this result. I would expect a smoother transition from the circle to the lozenge shape. Any suggestions on a way to make the transition correctly?

Yes you can use 2 command buttons within '2 Faces + Path' section of web-dialog:

• Flip face normal
• Rotate face to dock vertices with other face
  It is also possible to fix the situation after 'pathface entity' generation: you can rotate any of two faces manually and refresh 'pathface entity'.
  
  I promise, that I'll write some manuals after 'LSS Toolbar' functionality update completion.

@brookefox said:

I wish error messages could be generated to help users, say if they make selection errors. Or perhaps that the plug be made to work with edge paths, so slow-witted users wouldn't need error messages.... So much.

You may try new version of 'LSS Toolbar' instead of '2 Faces + Path' plugin.
New version of 'LSS Toolbar' is still under construction, but fortunately '2 faces + path' tool is already implemented and work even more stable, than '2 Faces + Path ver. 1.5' stand-alone plugin.
You may take a look at demonstration video at https://sites.google.com/site/lssoft2011/home/lss-toolbar

lss_toolbar_2_0_pre_alpha.zip

@unknownuser said:

Seems you win your personal challenge!

Not yet... The current version has a lot of limitations and very unstable. It's not able to process complex geometry and even sequence of user actions matters (it is necessary to make goup, group copy, then launch 'LSS Matrix' dialog, then edit group and group copy contens, then refresh results). It is necessary to stick to such sequence, because 'LSS Matrix' numerates faces and edges inside initial and copy group after 'Apply' click to be able to track geometry changes properly later during refreshing.
Also it is necessary to edit group contents very carefully: if any face will be broken as a result of editing, then 'Scan' will fail to analyse such changes (entities count has to be equal in initial and copy groups).
So it is far from finish

@unknownuser said:

Very cool new functions "Scale"!
(you haveve written "Scan"

Well actually face or edge does not store information about its scaling (or any other transformation as well).
The trick is that script 'scans' entities inside groups, detects vertices movements and vertices within intermediate groups approaches from initial position to new position. So after scaling a face it looks like faces within intermediate groups gradually 'scales' from initial scale to new.
That's why this new feature works well only when 'interpolate' option is set to 'Yes'. You may try just for fun not to set 'interpolate' to 'Yes' and see what happen then
So I insist that new feature name is 'Scan'