@keithwins said: .... Is this common? It doesn't seem to have anything to do with turning section planes or cuts visibility on or off. When they're broken, I can move them and they act just like Section Cuts vis is off. I have had this happen...though I thought it was related to putting the section plane(s) on a layer. They will no longer cut....no matter what you try....ative/inactive...put back on default layer. "It" hasn't happened to me in a while, and so I never did figure out why. Can you post a file with a broken section plane? (maybe Trimble would like to see it) Best, Charlie

Unfortunately that's for an earlier driver version. The big thing is that the new version does not even have the choices for Navigation Modes in Advanced Settings!!

@box said: @keithwins said: AH! If the toolbar dialog is open, it works like you said. If it's closed (which I'd done, since it didn't seem to buy me anything) it works like I said. So I can move tools around without ever opening the toolbar dialog using Alt. Thanks for sticking with me! Out of the mouths of babes and all that, you've stumbled across a handy feature there. Being able to move tools around from bar to bar without opening the toolbar dialog is something I would never have guessed at. +1.......have to try and remember this........and what's in a name... KeithWins C

Thanks so much for the replies. Guidelines are perfect, I use them in my CAD package all the time. What a great feature. I'll try all this, and especially get a lot more experienced with components, groups and layers. Keith