Posts made by Hazza

There is the 3D challenge, you have a week to do the model.

1. Download the Set centre point plugin.
2. Select the Circle.
3. Plugins -> Set centre point
4. Select the circle drawing tool.
5. Put the tool on the current face.
6. Hold the "Shift" key so that the tool keeps the orintation of the current face.
7. Move the tool to the guide point.
8. Draw your inner circle.
9. (Optional) Delete the guide point.

Bert,

I have only looked at a couple of your models but they are all so well done I would like to add all of them. I was not aware you were already a member of this forum, that's why I used the contact link on that desk.

There are a couple of reversed faces on some of the pieces I have looked at but that does not stop them from being included in the collection. If you would like to know which faces on which pieces I can let you know.

@gaieus said:

This is a nice idea in general, Hazza!

Thanks, do you have any models to add?

Hi, my name is Harry, I am addicted to SketchUp after only 4 weeks. I NEVER name groups, but it's because I only use them as a temporary thing, only ever have 1 at a time before turning what I am doing into a component.

It's not so much a script to do the uploading, it just tracks the Model ID. After you have installed the script the Model ID tracking is automatic when you upload to the 3D warehouse. If you have already uploaded a model before you installed the script and you want to replace it you need to set the model ID manually:

1. Visit the models web page.
2. Click on the "Link"
3. At the end of the link it will show the model ID, for example my Queens size bed model has "....ls?mid=5511166e3a0b199c4cc1952ae0d6e81a"
4. Copy the models ID number.
5. In the model, go "Plugins -> Model ID -> Set Model ID"
6. Paste in the Model ID.

You will now be able to replace the model with the new improved version. You can tell if setting the Model ID was successful because the upload window will show the description etc from the warehouse that you already had up there.

BTW. A little tip, save the model, upload it, save again, the model ID is the "change" between saves. If you don't save the second time you will have to set the model ID manually...or you could just save once after you upload.

@jean-franco said:

This table top will be done in mdf or in plywood and will be venereed.

Ok cool, it has been added.

@jean-franco said:

You seem to have some expertise with SU, would you share some of your models with us ?

Ha ha.. I am no expert I have only been using it for 4 weeks now. All of my models can be found on the 3D warehouse here.

I just took to SketchUp like a duck to water. Back in the early 90's I helped out in the graphics section of where I worked. The guy that was showing me the ropes had a REAL eye for details. I carried that through to my photography using GIMP and now to SU.

Those models are exactly the type that are worthy of inclusion and I find myself wondering how you did some of it.

Only a few minor points about them that does not stop them from being added. One or 2 pieces have reversed faces:

1. Chaise has a reversed face in the component "Traverse assise AR". Change the view to monochrome and look underneath. I don't know what the woodworking term for it is but one end with the bits that stick out.

2. Etagère contemporaine has some lines underneath the top piece and component "Composant#1". There are some floating lines where the component "montant cintre" goes through the component "plateau inferieur". The component "Grouper#3" has some floating lines and it has a guide line within the component on the front left corner. My guess is that they where guide lines that didn't get deleted. To see what I mean delete those components.

The models that don't met the criteria are:

1. The Table secrétaire is such a beautiful model and I really want to add it but I can't just yet. The component "Plateau" is made of multiple pieces of wood. It shows that the top is four pieces of wood on the outside surronding the inlays but underneath shows it as a single piece. All of the inlays are a zero thickness. Same issue with the the component "Face tiroir" and all the "Traverse" components.

It also a minor issue of some reversed faces on the handle.

2. Console. The components "Plateau1" and "Glissiere G/D" seem to be made from several pieces of wood but are single components. It uses the same handles as "Table secrétaire" that has the reversed faces.

Even the 2 that didn't get included are great works and I am curious how you did the legs on the Table secrétaire?

In an effort to increase the level of quality of woodworking models on the 3D warehouse I have created a collection (here)that I am inviting all SketchUcation users to add to. The model must met certain criteria to be added to the collection.

1. It must be to scale, (no 3 mile wide bird boxes).
2. Each piece must be a separate component or group.
3. If the model uses components, the component must be to scale.
4. There can be no overlapping solids.
5. At least one scene or layer must show the woodwork item as intended to be finished.

To have your model included in the collection:

1. Upload it to the 3D warehouse.
2. Copy the link to the model and paste it in this thread.
3. If the model meets the criteria above it will be added to the collection.
4. If it doesn't then you will be informed why, how it could be improved and invited to resubmit it.

I suggest downloading and installing the Model ID plugin. This plugin allows you to replace the model already uploaded to the 3D warehouse with an improved version instead of having a second copy (or third or fourth or....)

(Edit) The models do not have to be your own, if you come across a model that you think is worthy of inclusion please post it's URL as well. Rest assured that I will contact the modeller first to explain what the collection is about and ask thier permission to include the model.

@unknownuser said:

I guess I am saying you are brave to point a finger.

I don't mean to say that the model can't be improved but there is a diminishing return for effort. With the size it is now you could fit almost 8,000 copies of it on a 1Gig USB stick.

Most models in the 3D warehouse don't even get the low hanging, VERY easy, computer does it all for you fruit, that was my point.

@pierce1954 said:

I may not understand your comment but I didn't have any problems with scene changes

I didn't say it was a problem, the change I suggested make it more like a slide show than a sliding show.

@unknownuser said:

Hazza, I much prefer "sliding" from one scene to another. It gives me a warm fuzzy feeling

I guess it is a matter of preference.

@tekkybot said:

@hazza said:

I had a thought that because people don't pay for SketchUp they don't value it like they would if they had to pay $200 for it. If you are willing to pay for it you are going to put in the effort to learn to get the most out of it.

nah thats not true at all. i love using the free version of sketchup. i found sketchup after finding tradtion 3d modeling software to hard to learn and to boring to learn and use. sketchup is fun! if version 7 comes out and its as good as i hope it will be ill spend the 495.00 for it. its not 200.00

I value it too, maybe I should have said "...mostpeople don't value it like they should..."

@unknownuser said:

In the case of your own model....It as well is not complete.

I don't understand some of what you are talking about but the model is only 126k in size and I wanted it to be as real life as possible. The end component is a single piece of wood so that's how I modeled it.

Of cource I could have done it like the one I based it, build 1/4 of the model then copy and rotate, that would make the model file even smaller but WAY less realistic.

I am interested to see if you are a SketchUp user that does woodworking models or a woodworker that does SketchUp models.

I myself don't have anything but a drill and no drill bits, I just love doing woodworking models.

@tekkybot said:

i dig your buffet hutch

Thanks, it was the hardest I have done so far because I kept having to go back with my tape measure.

I had a thought that because people don't pay for SketchUp they don't value it like they would if they had to pay $200 for it. If you are willing to pay for it you are going to put in the effort to learn to get the most out of it.

I use Linux and all Open source software, it's all free but I value it more than the MS Windows I had to pay for so that I could dual boot.... now if Google would just release a Linux version of SketchUp ....

@unknownuser said:

Hey Pierce, I did a quickie tut for creating a mortise and tenon.
Just click on the Scene tabs at the top and it will walk you through.

That is great work, something to consider to improve the next tut:

1. Window / Model info
2. Animation
3. Untick "Enable scene transitions"
4. Set "Scene delay" to 0.

That way they go from one tut page to the next instantly instead of seeing the model slide.

@dave r said:

What sort of models are you looking for?

That's my point, there is no easily accessible location to find decent woodworking models. I am not really looking for a model I am looking to create a decent collection that others can contribute to. I was thinking of starting a warehouse collection that would only have models that met certain criteria, like having each piece of wood as a separate component (or group).

If there was enough interest from this forum / section it could become THE collection for woodworking sketchup models. If/when it became large enough it could be be split into sub-collections like "Simple projects", "Furniture", "Outdoor" etc.

If there is not enough interest then I won't bother, that's why I am asking here to gauge the interest level. I would start a thread (that may even become a sticky?) inviting people to submit woodworking models for the collection, if they are good enough they would be added. If not, then the creator would be told why the model doesn't met the cut and what they could do to improve their model.

Most of the models you see in the 3D warehouse are cra....... ummm.... less than worthy of the effort to download them.

Is there a collection that is vetted so that the poorer modes are weeded out? Is anyone willing to start and/or help maintain a collection? Is there another central location that can be searched that is more controlled than the 3D warehouse?

I have not read much of this forum but I have looked at alot of models that I got from the 3D warehouse.

All of them leave alot to be desired. I use components like there is no tomorrow, for example a "frame" component will be made up of 4 post components, 2 long side components, 2 short side components and a bottom component.

Almost all models don't even use the fact that Sketchup gives you the centre (or midpoint) to make the model symmetrical.

The computer does all the calculations and alignment for you why don't people use it?

To see what I mean check out my bird feeder model and the one I based it on here:
http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=55050bbca6e112434cc1952ae0d6e81a

@gaieus said:

Now as I think of it, I would probably fail to name more than just a couple of state capitals in the USA.

So you can name a few STATE capitals and she doesn't even know that France is a COUNTRY.... mmmm me thinks that is big difference.