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    Follow Me tool not working with curve

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    • X 離線
      xxhellfirexx
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      I find the Follow Me tool, even after lots of practice, to be the most difficult tool to master. Below is an image of a case where I am trying to drag a shape around a track to form a curve for the edges of the keyboard I am modeling.


      http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/2689/followme1ip0.th.jpg


      http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/6014/followme2ng0.th.jpg


      http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/8057/followme3iz0.th.jpg

      The problem is that the Follow Me tool skipped the beveling of the corners. This may be that the corner is too sharp or the shape is too small. I am not sure what exactly is the cause of the problem. The last image is my "attempt" to do the corners although it looks quite horrible.

      I know these images are not too helpful so I decided to attach the .skp file. Thanks for your help!


      follow me help.skp

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      • A 離線
        alan wood
        最後由 編輯

        Hi
        I notice that you work with small measurements the same as myself. My solution to this problem was to
        1 make the model in your case the rectanglular shape including the curve required.
        2 group the model, scale up by a scale of 10 or 100.
        3 ungroup the model, then carry out the follow me operation at this incrreased size.

        This should then work. You will also have to use the same scaling up method for other shapes when working with small measurments.
        cheers
        Alan

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        • GaieusG 離線
          Gaieus
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          Alan is right, SU can "miss" faces when they get below say 1/16" (or about a millimeter). This is particularly so with the follow me and the intersect tools (both may end up with really small faces).

          Gai...

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          • X 離線
            xxhellfirexx
            最後由 編輯

            That did the trick. Thanks so much!

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            • Joe WoodJ 離線
              Joe Wood
              最後由 編輯

              Another tip XX is to reduce the number of segments in your arc, before you use the Follow Me.

              R click the arc, choose Entity Info, and change the number of segments. I usually only use three, and after they're Softened you can't really see the segments anyway.

              Joe Wood
              woodsshop.com/

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              • AnssiA 離線
                Anssi
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                Also note that the Follow Me tool is unable to turn a corner cleanly with an interior radius of 0. In these cases it always results in an odd bevel and a couple of small faces that look like the wings of a small butterfly.

                Anssi

                corner.jpg

                securi adversus homines, securi adversus deos rem difficillimam adsecuti sunt, ut illis ne voto quidem opus esset

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                • J 離線
                  Julius
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                  @anssi said:

                  Also note that the Follow Me tool is unable to turn a corner cleanly with an interior radius of 0. In these cases it always results in an odd bevel and a couple of small faces that look like the wings of a small butterfly.

                  Anssi

                  [attachment=0:1rbkp9xa]<!-- ia0 -->corner.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:1rbkp9xa]

                  this one is very unpleasant...anyway, i had the same problem with the follow me tool and the scaling tool is definitely the solution.

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                  • GaieusG 離線
                    Gaieus
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                    The usual workaround for such a problem is either to do the extrusion along a curvy (not cornered) path (like in Dave's tutorial here) or to create a dome (hemisphere), quarter it and simply move the quarter hemisphere into that place in the corner.

                    Gai...

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                    • J 離線
                      Julius
                      最後由 編輯

                      well, in dave's tutorial there's still this littele hole:

                      http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/1007/radiusedcubeli6.png

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                      • GaieusG 離線
                        Gaieus
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                        @julius said:

                        well, in dave's tutorial there's still this littele hole:

                        Hm... 😒

                        Gai...

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                        • Wo3DanW 離線
                          Wo3Dan
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                          @gaieus said:

                          @julius said:

                          well, in dave's tutorial there's still this littele hole:

                          Hm... 😒

                          Gaieus, maybe you should switch avatars with Julius!? 😎
                          Anyway, this matter was discussed by Noel Dent, Gully and .... Gaieus some (exactly) 8 months ago:
                          http://groups.google.com/group/sketchuphowto/browse_frm/thread/23b55b464cc16456/6b0c0732cc8b2bb6?lnk=gst&q=noel+gully+corner#6b0c0732cc8b2bb6
                          I think there was a follow up with file to explain further.
                          This 'bug' has been known for quite a while. You should close the gab by zooming in and do some stitching.

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                          • G 離線
                            GreenToaster
                            最後由 編輯

                            Here's another example of what you can do with the Follow Me tool . . . it's not just for planar (flat) applications, as illustrated in this image . . .


                            bw_car_0463b.jpg

                            If you really want something you won't ever stop pursuing it.

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                            • GaieusG 離線
                              Gaieus
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                              Wodan I know it does this "trick" when coming around a right angle corner but here the path was a rounded one.

                              I'd've bet that there should've been something like this result:


                              http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/sas/Newbie/FollowMe.jpg

                              [Click on the image to download the skp file]

                              @unknownuser said:

                              Gaieus, maybe you should switch avatars with Julius!? 😎

                              Well, to tell the truth it is Gaius Caesar Augustus Germanicus (Caligula) on the coin. I don't think Julius wanted my avatar... 😒


                              Edit: I see now the difference. Dave placed the face to be extruded inside the box (thus creating the glitch for the radius of the face was smaller than the radius of the rounded edge). In my example I placed it outside so the face could smoothly follow the path.

                              Gai...

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                              • GaieusG 離線
                                Gaieus
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                                @greentoaster said:

                                Here's another example of what you can do with the Follow Me tool . . . it's not just for planar (flat) applications, as illustrated in this image . . .

                                Surely Brad it can be used on non-planar paths, too - it will just twist and distort so if you wanted an even extrusion, it would be a very hard work to be precise.

                                Gai...

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                                • J 離線
                                  Julius
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                                  no, thanks, i prefer homer... 😉

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                                  • AnssiA 離線
                                    Anssi
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                                    Julius,

                                    Here's Homer for you 😄
                                    Homeros0701.jpg

                                    Cheers

                                    Anssi

                                    securi adversus homines, securi adversus deos rem difficillimam adsecuti sunt, ut illis ne voto quidem opus esset

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                                    • J 離線
                                      Julius
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                                      😆 well, actually i didn't mean that one 😆

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                                      • boofredlayB 離線
                                        boofredlay
                                        最後由 編輯

                                        How is this one?

                                        http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/large/8501.jpg

                                        http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                                        • J 離線
                                          Julius
                                          最後由 編輯

                                          that's better 😆 [/off-topic]

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                                          • T 離線
                                            topbobster
                                            最後由 編輯

                                            @alan wood said:

                                            Hi
                                            I notice that you work with small measurements the same as myself. My solution to this problem was to
                                            1 make the model in your case the rectanglular shape including the curve required.
                                            2 group the model, scale up by a scale of 10 or 100.
                                            3 ungroup the model, then carry out the follow me operation at this incrreased size.

                                            This should then work. You will also have to use the same scaling up method for other shapes when working with small measurments.
                                            cheers
                                            Alan

                                            Thanks, Alan, you're a star. Sometimes the simplest things make the difference....
                                            Rob

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