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    xxhellfirexx
    last edited by 4 Jan 2008, 07:37

    I find the Follow Me tool, even after lots of practice, to be the most difficult tool to master. Below is an image of a case where I am trying to drag a shape around a track to form a curve for the edges of the keyboard I am modeling.


    http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/2689/followme1ip0.th.jpg


    http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/6014/followme2ng0.th.jpg


    http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/8057/followme3iz0.th.jpg

    The problem is that the Follow Me tool skipped the beveling of the corners. This may be that the corner is too sharp or the shape is too small. I am not sure what exactly is the cause of the problem. The last image is my "attempt" to do the corners although it looks quite horrible.

    I know these images are not too helpful so I decided to attach the .skp file. Thanks for your help!


    follow me help.skp

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      alan wood
      last edited by 4 Jan 2008, 08:14

      Hi
      I notice that you work with small measurements the same as myself. My solution to this problem was to
      1 make the model in your case the rectanglular shape including the curve required.
      2 group the model, scale up by a scale of 10 or 100.
      3 ungroup the model, then carry out the follow me operation at this incrreased size.

      This should then work. You will also have to use the same scaling up method for other shapes when working with small measurments.
      cheers
      Alan

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        Gaieus
        last edited by 4 Jan 2008, 08:36

        Alan is right, SU can "miss" faces when they get below say 1/16" (or about a millimeter). This is particularly so with the follow me and the intersect tools (both may end up with really small faces).

        Gai...

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          xxhellfirexx
          last edited by 4 Jan 2008, 10:10

          That did the trick. Thanks so much!

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            Joe Wood
            last edited by 4 Jan 2008, 16:03

            Another tip XX is to reduce the number of segments in your arc, before you use the Follow Me.

            R click the arc, choose Entity Info, and change the number of segments. I usually only use three, and after they're Softened you can't really see the segments anyway.

            Joe Wood
            woodsshop.com/

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              Anssi
              last edited by 4 Jan 2008, 18:44

              Also note that the Follow Me tool is unable to turn a corner cleanly with an interior radius of 0. In these cases it always results in an odd bevel and a couple of small faces that look like the wings of a small butterfly.

              Anssi

              corner.jpg

              securi adversus homines, securi adversus deos rem difficillimam adsecuti sunt, ut illis ne voto quidem opus esset

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                Julius
                last edited by 6 Jan 2008, 12:15

                @anssi said:

                Also note that the Follow Me tool is unable to turn a corner cleanly with an interior radius of 0. In these cases it always results in an odd bevel and a couple of small faces that look like the wings of a small butterfly.

                Anssi

                [attachment=0:1rbkp9xa]<!-- ia0 -->corner.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:1rbkp9xa]

                this one is very unpleasant...anyway, i had the same problem with the follow me tool and the scaling tool is definitely the solution.

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                  Gaieus
                  last edited by 6 Jan 2008, 12:21

                  The usual workaround for such a problem is either to do the extrusion along a curvy (not cornered) path (like in Dave's tutorial here) or to create a dome (hemisphere), quarter it and simply move the quarter hemisphere into that place in the corner.

                  Gai...

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                    Julius
                    last edited by 6 Jan 2008, 20:12

                    well, in dave's tutorial there's still this littele hole:

                    http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/1007/radiusedcubeli6.png

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                      Gaieus
                      last edited by 6 Jan 2008, 20:43

                      @julius said:

                      well, in dave's tutorial there's still this littele hole:

                      Hm... πŸ˜’

                      Gai...

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                        Wo3Dan
                        last edited by 6 Jan 2008, 22:12

                        @gaieus said:

                        @julius said:

                        well, in dave's tutorial there's still this littele hole:

                        Hm... πŸ˜’

                        Gaieus, maybe you should switch avatars with Julius!? 😎
                        Anyway, this matter was discussed by Noel Dent, Gully and .... Gaieus some (exactly) 8 months ago:
                        http://groups.google.com/group/sketchuphowto/browse_frm/thread/23b55b464cc16456/6b0c0732cc8b2bb6?lnk=gst&q=noel+gully+corner#6b0c0732cc8b2bb6
                        I think there was a follow up with file to explain further.
                        This 'bug' has been known for quite a while. You should close the gab by zooming in and do some stitching.

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                          GreenToaster
                          last edited by 6 Jan 2008, 22:35

                          Here's another example of what you can do with the Follow Me tool . . . it's not just for planar (flat) applications, as illustrated in this image . . .


                          bw_car_0463b.jpg

                          If you really want something you won't ever stop pursuing it.

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                            Gaieus
                            last edited by 6 Jan 2008, 23:04

                            Wodan I know it does this "trick" when coming around a right angle corner but here the path was a rounded one.

                            I'd've bet that there should've been something like this result:


                            http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/sas/Newbie/FollowMe.jpg

                            [Click on the image to download the skp file]

                            @unknownuser said:

                            Gaieus, maybe you should switch avatars with Julius!? 😎

                            Well, to tell the truth it is Gaius Caesar Augustus Germanicus (Caligula) on the coin. I don't think Julius wanted my avatar... πŸ˜’


                            Edit: I see now the difference. Dave placed the face to be extruded inside the box (thus creating the glitch for the radius of the face was smaller than the radius of the rounded edge). In my example I placed it outside so the face could smoothly follow the path.

                            Gai...

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                              Gaieus
                              last edited by 6 Jan 2008, 23:11

                              @greentoaster said:

                              Here's another example of what you can do with the Follow Me tool . . . it's not just for planar (flat) applications, as illustrated in this image . . .

                              Surely Brad it can be used on non-planar paths, too - it will just twist and distort so if you wanted an even extrusion, it would be a very hard work to be precise.

                              Gai...

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                                Julius
                                last edited by 7 Jan 2008, 12:27

                                no, thanks, i prefer homer... πŸ˜‰

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                                  Anssi
                                  last edited by 7 Jan 2008, 18:29

                                  Julius,

                                  Here's Homer for you πŸ˜„
                                  Homeros0701.jpg

                                  Cheers

                                  Anssi

                                  securi adversus homines, securi adversus deos rem difficillimam adsecuti sunt, ut illis ne voto quidem opus esset

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                                    Julius
                                    last edited by 7 Jan 2008, 19:30

                                    πŸ˜† well, actually i didn't mean that one πŸ˜†

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                                      boofredlay
                                      last edited by 7 Jan 2008, 19:31

                                      How is this one?

                                      http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/large/8501.jpg

                                      http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                                        Julius
                                        last edited by 7 Jan 2008, 19:34

                                        that's better πŸ˜† [/off-topic]

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                                          topbobster
                                          last edited by 30 Nov 2016, 21:08

                                          @alan wood said:

                                          Hi
                                          I notice that you work with small measurements the same as myself. My solution to this problem was to
                                          1 make the model in your case the rectanglular shape including the curve required.
                                          2 group the model, scale up by a scale of 10 or 100.
                                          3 ungroup the model, then carry out the follow me operation at this incrreased size.

                                          This should then work. You will also have to use the same scaling up method for other shapes when working with small measurments.
                                          cheers
                                          Alan

                                          Thanks, Alan, you're a star. Sometimes the simplest things make the difference....
                                          Rob

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