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    ntxdave
    last edited by 1 Oct 2024, 19:15

    I am trying to use the TrueBend plugin to bend a group of objects along a curve. While I know how to use the basics of the tool, I am having a problem understanding how to set the axis for the group to bend it the way I want to. I hope the image below will give you an idea of what I am trying to accomplish.
    TrueBend Axis Problem.png

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      Gus R @ntxdave
      last edited by 2 Oct 2024, 14:14

      @ntxdave Place your line on the lower left hand side of the group to have group set on the lower left side of the curve. Hit the up key to flip the sides. If you set said line from the middle of the group the origin will be centered and hitting the up key won't change anything. The line defines the origin.

      I don't really use this much and was just trying it out again.

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        TIG Moderator @ntxdave
        last edited by TIG 10 Feb 2024, 15:18 2 Oct 2024, 14:40

        @ntxdave
        It you mean 'TrueBend' it only bends around the blue [Z] axis.
        As does the other extension 'ShapeBender ' example used in Gus's example...
        Rotate the elements involved so they are flat on the ground and do the bending - them rotate then to stand up again...

        TIG

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          Gus R @TIG
          last edited by 2 Oct 2024, 14:53

          @TIG Right. Shape Bender! 😊

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            ntxdave @Gus R
            last edited by 2 Oct 2024, 17:26

            @Gus-R & @TIG I appreciate your responses but I am not getting the results I want. If you look at the orientation of the objects on the left and right, that is the orientation of the shapes that I want for the arch. When the objects are placed in the arch, I want the "tall" part to be the way the objects are oriented. I do not seem to be able to rotate them correctly to achieve what I want. Think of it like the objects are bricks and I want the arch to show the long side of the bricks.

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              TIG Moderator @ntxdave
              last edited by 2 Oct 2024, 18:31

              @ntxdave
              I think the simplest way would be to draw a grouped pair of circles centered on the opening, passing through corners of the verticals. Rotate the arcs so that they start at a segment's midpoint rather than a vertex. You'll probably need to scale the group so that the arcs touch the verticals again.
              Choose a segment count that approximates to the size of a brick 75mm/3" [or double that]
              Draw a horizontal divider and delete the lower parts of the circles.
              Now edit the group and draw in edges the match some of the mortar beds for the bricks in the arch.
              You don't need to draw them all, use Rotate>RadialArray and copy them around the arc.
              Draw in missing edges the make all faces form.
              Use PushPull to add thickness to the arch bricks, double-click to repeat on all brick faces to repeat the dim...

              TIG

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                Rich O Brien Moderator @TIG
                last edited by 2 Oct 2024, 18:50

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                  Gus R @Rich O Brien
                  last edited by 2 Oct 2024, 18:56

                  @Rich-O-Brien You can do this with shape bender too although the "bricks" at the top widen out. Ignore the exaggerated proportions.

                  The line used in Shape Bender had to be the same distance as the overall length of the arc + sides.

                  Shape Bender.jpg

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                    Rich O Brien Moderator @Gus R
                    last edited by 2 Oct 2024, 19:21

                    @Gus-R Yeah, there 10 different ways of doing it. Both natively or via plugins.

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                      ntxdave @Rich O Brien
                      last edited by 2 Oct 2024, 19:25

                      @Rich-O-Brien Thanks Rich, Gus & TIG. I finally got my act together and was able to figure things out before seeing these last posts. Here is my result (but I like the stuff you guys did as well).

                      TrueBend Arch Model.png

                      I guess this "exercise" exemplifies my age and lack of use lately. πŸ˜‘

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                        Gus R @ntxdave
                        last edited by Gus R 10 Feb 2024, 19:48 2 Oct 2024, 19:43

                        @ntxdave You're welcome, Dave. I was trying to figure out how to do my brick arches in Blender that doesn't involve an hour on some procedural. There's a lot of really good videos on Youtube but nothing that gets it done fast and simple. Then while there's a lot of great Youtube tutorials on Blender a lot of them seem to talk 100 MPH and they have 20/15 vision.

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                          Rich O Brien Moderator @ntxdave
                          last edited by 2 Oct 2024, 19:58

                          @ntxdave said in TrueBend Axis Problem:

                          exemplifies my age and lack of use lately

                          Horses for courses. Always a good idea to get ideas from others to see what comes out of the hat

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                            ntxdave @Rich O Brien
                            last edited by 2 Oct 2024, 20:52

                            @Rich-O-Brien Did you do your model with native tools or a plugin? Yes, I know it is a dumb question but I just had to ask. I have never seen the rotation tool used like that.

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                              Box @ntxdave
                              last edited by 3 Oct 2024, 02:51

                              @ntxdave
                              Rich used Radial Bending, part of Fredo's Fredoscale.
                              Radial bending.gif

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                                ntxdave @Box
                                last edited by 3 Oct 2024, 13:24

                                @Box Thank you sir. πŸ‘ πŸ‘

                                I have not used that tool so I will do some playing around.

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                                  ntxdave @ntxdave
                                  last edited by ntxdave 10 May 2024, 00:46 5 Oct 2024, 00:44

                                  @ntxdave said in TrueBend Axis Problem:

                                  @Box Thank you sir. πŸ‘ πŸ‘

                                  I have not used that tool so I will do some playing around.

                                  I am feeling really stupid. 😊

                                  I have watched @Box’s video several times and have also watched a couple of tutorials but I seem to have real problems trying to use the tool. Can someone give me a somewhat detailed (step by step) explanation of how to accomplish this?

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                                    Box @ntxdave
                                    last edited by 5 Oct 2024, 02:50

                                    @ntxdave
                                    It tells you what to do in the task bar.
                                    It is basically four single click and releases.
                                    A click at the start of the bend a click at the end of the bend then a click passed the bend and then bend it and a final click to complete.
                                    GIF 5-10-2024 12-44-49 PM.gif

                                    I used the red blocks in my original to give me visual start and stop points for the bend.

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                                      ntxdave @Box
                                      last edited by 5 Oct 2024, 17:00

                                      @Box Thank you sir! I finally got things working correctly and was able to "play around" a little. The image below represents what I figured out using the FredoScale tools. I greatly appreciate your help. 😁 πŸ‘ πŸ‘
                                      FredoScaleSample.png

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