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    • Mike AmosM Offline
      Mike Amos
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      There is no doubt that the number of good render programs has grown but that will never remove the need to learn how to use the product. On top of this there are more and more tutorials out there to help people learn the methods required. NOTHING can assist a lazy user and this is ably demonstrated by the fantastic renders seen on line. What you do is to enthuse and encourage others to follow and learn, something that is priceless. Many thanks John.

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      • Bob JamesB Offline
        Bob James
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        @tadema said:

        Hello Bob,
        I'm not sure i could or have the inclination to explain the process to produce these, it's just one of several techniques I use which I've evolved over the years and can become long winded.

        John,
        I am too old (82) and have neither the time nor talent to want to learn the details of your processes for producing these masterpieces. I just have no idea what "hand rendering" even means. I assume you start with an SU model and then, somehow, add the color/texture. That's all I was asking about. Just curious that's all.

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        • tademaT Offline
          tadema
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          Thank you Jochen.

          Mike, like others I wish more people would participate in the gallery and renew the "buzz" it once had.

          Bob, please forgive me, reading my post certainly sounds a lot "meaner" than it was meant.
          I really wish I had time to produce a walk-thru of the process but basically it's taking the SU output and then the majority of work is done in Photoshop compositing images as well as hand painting. It has a lot of similarities with matte painting and more involving than basic rendering, your output is more real time than having to produce test renders.
          Hoping this explains a little better.

          take care
          John

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          • Rich O BrienR Online
            Rich O Brien Moderator
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            @tadema said:

            Mike, like others I wish more people would participate in the gallery and renew the "buzz" it once had.

            What about a dedicated gallery at gallery.sketchucation.com where you are free to upload images, add your details and vote?

            Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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            • tademaT Offline
              tadema
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              Hello Rich,
              We have such but it was never updated, a great amount of votes were cast which shows it's potential. The problem with a gallery is it can become elitist which needs to be avoided. IMHO we need somewhere people can post images and seek advice, a separate area for post production would help massively as PP is now such a big part of the process and often overlooked.

              Just my tuppence worth and I'm sure others (please) will have ideas/opinions to add.

              John

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              • Mike AmosM Offline
                Mike Amos
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                When I get over the move and sorting out where things go, not a quick job going from three bed detached to one bed flat. I hope I will have time to render properly. Not being as talented as some here I tend to take longer, sometimes a hundred renders to fine tune.

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                • hellnbakH Offline
                  hellnbak
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                  John,

                  Really good to see more of your mind-blowing creations. I gave up long ago trying to find some little thing to criticize in your work (to make me feel better). Just ain't there.
                  You, sir, are the Master!

                  Steve

                  You should really make a book of your masterpieces. I know I would buy it.

                  "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                  • pbacotP Offline
                    pbacot
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                    @tadema said:

                    Hello Pilou, All the images are produced at ~ 7500 x 5000 ppi then reduced down as required, this gives a great deal of scope for printing.

                    Affinity looks a good alternative to PS and the price looks fantastic. I have a subscription for PS and feel comfortable with it ATM...

                    take care
                    John

                    A montage
                    [attachment=0:2edj2c62]<!-- ia0 -->Set 01.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:2edj2c62]

                    Love all these in the montage. Just great buildings and settings, beautifully recreated!

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                    • tademaT Offline
                      tadema
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                      Mike, hope your settled in soon and looking forward to seeing your renderings.

                      Steve, it's your work that's sorely missing lately. Any member could benefit by studying your modeling, never seen anybody so diligent! You start posting and I'll write you a book 😎

                      Peter, I've quite a collection of these now, next I will revisit the old Charles Voysey renders from a few years ago, here's one I completed from which the quick watercolour was made from.

                      John

                      7.jpg

                      Hollybank.jpg

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                      • pbacotP Offline
                        pbacot
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                        They've got few chimneys there!

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                        • hellnbakH Offline
                          hellnbak
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                          @tadema said:

                          You start posting and I'll write you a book 😎
                          John

                          Yeah, haven't been doing much new stuff with SU lately. Been meaning to getting around to posting a batch of my one-off models, but obviously that hasn't worked out. Inertia sucks 😞

                          "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                          • Mike AmosM Offline
                            Mike Amos
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                            Steve, I have to second John's words here. You are one of the people I look for posts from when I log in. Your models have a lot of integrity and what you export as a graphic knocks most renders into a cocked hat. I hope the inertia can be overcome but in your time not mine. Stay well doods.

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                            • R Offline
                              rv1974
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                              Your frames are questionable. May be it'd be a good idea to scan some realpencil frame and overlay it in Post?

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                              • HornOxxH Offline
                                HornOxx
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                                @hellnbak said:

                                John,

                                Really good to see more of your mind-blowing creations. ... You, sir, are the Master!
                                You should really make a book of your masterpieces...

                                πŸ‘ πŸ‘
                                ... nothing to add here πŸ˜„

                                never trust a skinny cook

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                                • tademaT Offline
                                  tadema
                                  last edited by

                                  Thank you for all the kind comments.

                                  @rv1974 said:

                                  Your frames are questionable. May be it'd be a good idea to scan some realpencil frame and overlay it in Post?

                                  Know what I don't give 2 ff's. Show us some of yours!

                                  Here's a few renders revisited from an old project I completed several years ago by the Architect Charles Voysey. There's quite a collection to come if anyone is interested.

                                  Charles Voysey Montage 1400.jpg

                                  John

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                                  • TIGT Online
                                    TIG Moderator
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                                    Great as always...
                                    Perhaps you've rendered my 2nd cousin's Vosey house ?
                                    We corresponded about it ages ago...

                                    TIG

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                                    • pbacotP Offline
                                      pbacot
                                      last edited by

                                      Beautiful. Yes I'd be VERY interested in seeing the Voysey collection. These are very illustrative and it'd be great study material, in terms of absorbing the feel and proportions of the designs. Thanks for sharing!

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                                      • hellnbakH Offline
                                        hellnbak
                                        last edited by

                                        Hey John,

                                        How 'bout you send me copies of all the textures you have amassed for your masterpieces? Heck, if I had those I might even try some of that there architectural-type stuff (ok, probably not, I just love collecting textures πŸ˜† )

                                        Steve

                                        "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                                        • tademaT Offline
                                          tadema
                                          last edited by

                                          Hello TIG, I clearly remember but could find very little material at the time, sure it was only the picture you posted that was available. Let me have another look and hopefully enough info will be available.

                                          Thanks Peter, I'll finish off the others and post.

                                          Hello Steve, I have masses of textures and cutouts but use very few, my biggest mistake is keeping the lesser quality images. The way I work is to make a folder for each new render/model and keep everything in each dedicated folder, then I mostly copy textures from one project to the next as needed. A lot of repeat texture but everything is then available if I have to move or renew to a new computer.

                                          John

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                                          • DanielD Offline
                                            Daniel
                                            last edited by

                                            Hey John! Remember me?
                                            Fantastic images, as usual. Glad to see you're still in the game.

                                            My avatar is an anachronism.

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