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    pbacot
    last edited by 6 Jan 2017, 07:52

    These are so nice, John. I really like the garden wall and the storage building.

    So there's no bump? That is you just exported a SketchUp image and created the magic in PS or another SW?

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      tadema
      last edited by 6 Jan 2017, 14:49

      Hello everyone,

      lol I can see it now Eric in Wonderland...

      @ Peter & Bob, the images are painted in Photoshop (Gimp or any other) using a tablet and pen, you could use a mouse but without the pressure control ect, a Β£20 tablet would do. In Photoshop you can add whatever maps/overlays you choose or prefer, making your own is a simple process. In a render engine bump maps don't necessarily have to go with it's associated diffuse map, mix n match so long as the sizes match plus you can render only the part of the model that is needed. Experiment/play around you can't spoil anything.

      John

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        Bob James
        last edited by 7 Jan 2017, 23:43

        You paint each leaf, each brick....!!!!
        What am I not understanding?

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          tadema
          last edited by 8 Jan 2017, 02:01

          Hello Bob,

          I'm not sure i could or have the inclination to explain the process to produce these, it's just one of several techniques I use which I've evolved over the years and can become long winded.

          There is a topic started by Bryan in the Corner Bar with a few of the replies seemingly implying that modern render engines are so advanced you can just bang a model in, push the button and Bob's ur uncle (sorry). Wish I'd purchased one of those and saved myself hundreds of hours practising.

          I've seen a few lads walk on site with a bag full of gleaming top of the range power tools, yet they would never make a Joiner (carpenter) as long as they had a hole in their arse.

          take care
          John

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            pilou
            last edited by 8 Jan 2017, 02:27

            Technical detail πŸ˜„
            What is the original size of the paint?
            Painting is made at zoom 1/1 or more-less ?
            Have you try Affinity Photo ?

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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              tadema
              last edited by 8 Jan 2017, 10:06

              Hello Pilou, All the images are produced at ~ 7500 x 5000 ppi then reduced down as required, this gives a great deal of scope for printing.

              Affinity looks a good alternative to PS and the price looks fantastic. I have a subscription for PS and feel comfortable with it ATM...

              take care
              John

              A montage
              Set 01.jpg

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                Richard
                last edited by 18 Jan 2017, 05:12

                Mate, I seriously just drool at your digitial penmanship!

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                  tadema
                  last edited by 18 Jan 2017, 23:32

                  Thanks for the kind words Richard.

                  1400px.jpg

                  John

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                    jo-ke
                    last edited by 19 Jan 2017, 06:01

                    beautyful!

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                      Mike Amos
                      last edited by 19 Jan 2017, 11:05

                      There is no doubt that the number of good render programs has grown but that will never remove the need to learn how to use the product. On top of this there are more and more tutorials out there to help people learn the methods required. NOTHING can assist a lazy user and this is ably demonstrated by the fantastic renders seen on line. What you do is to enthuse and encourage others to follow and learn, something that is priceless. Many thanks John.

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                        Bob James
                        last edited by 19 Jan 2017, 12:23

                        @tadema said:

                        Hello Bob,
                        I'm not sure i could or have the inclination to explain the process to produce these, it's just one of several techniques I use which I've evolved over the years and can become long winded.

                        John,
                        I am too old (82) and have neither the time nor talent to want to learn the details of your processes for producing these masterpieces. I just have no idea what "hand rendering" even means. I assume you start with an SU model and then, somehow, add the color/texture. That's all I was asking about. Just curious that's all.

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                          tadema
                          last edited by 19 Jan 2017, 12:56

                          Thank you Jochen.

                          Mike, like others I wish more people would participate in the gallery and renew the "buzz" it once had.

                          Bob, please forgive me, reading my post certainly sounds a lot "meaner" than it was meant.
                          I really wish I had time to produce a walk-thru of the process but basically it's taking the SU output and then the majority of work is done in Photoshop compositing images as well as hand painting. It has a lot of similarities with matte painting and more involving than basic rendering, your output is more real time than having to produce test renders.
                          Hoping this explains a little better.

                          take care
                          John

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                            Rich O Brien Moderator
                            last edited by 19 Jan 2017, 13:19

                            @tadema said:

                            Mike, like others I wish more people would participate in the gallery and renew the "buzz" it once had.

                            What about a dedicated gallery at gallery.sketchucation.com where you are free to upload images, add your details and vote?

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                              tadema
                              last edited by 19 Jan 2017, 13:48

                              Hello Rich,
                              We have such but it was never updated, a great amount of votes were cast which shows it's potential. The problem with a gallery is it can become elitist which needs to be avoided. IMHO we need somewhere people can post images and seek advice, a separate area for post production would help massively as PP is now such a big part of the process and often overlooked.

                              Just my tuppence worth and I'm sure others (please) will have ideas/opinions to add.

                              John

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                                Mike Amos
                                last edited by 19 Jan 2017, 16:50

                                When I get over the move and sorting out where things go, not a quick job going from three bed detached to one bed flat. I hope I will have time to render properly. Not being as talented as some here I tend to take longer, sometimes a hundred renders to fine tune.

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                                  hellnbak
                                  last edited by 19 Jan 2017, 17:44

                                  John,

                                  Really good to see more of your mind-blowing creations. I gave up long ago trying to find some little thing to criticize in your work (to make me feel better). Just ain't there.
                                  You, sir, are the Master!

                                  Steve

                                  You should really make a book of your masterpieces. I know I would buy it.

                                  "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                                    pbacot
                                    last edited by 19 Jan 2017, 19:37

                                    @tadema said:

                                    Hello Pilou, All the images are produced at ~ 7500 x 5000 ppi then reduced down as required, this gives a great deal of scope for printing.

                                    Affinity looks a good alternative to PS and the price looks fantastic. I have a subscription for PS and feel comfortable with it ATM...

                                    take care
                                    John

                                    A montage
                                    [attachment=0:2edj2c62]<!-- ia0 -->Set 01.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:2edj2c62]

                                    Love all these in the montage. Just great buildings and settings, beautifully recreated!

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                                      tadema
                                      last edited by 19 Jan 2017, 22:51

                                      Mike, hope your settled in soon and looking forward to seeing your renderings.

                                      Steve, it's your work that's sorely missing lately. Any member could benefit by studying your modeling, never seen anybody so diligent! You start posting and I'll write you a book 😎

                                      Peter, I've quite a collection of these now, next I will revisit the old Charles Voysey renders from a few years ago, here's one I completed from which the quick watercolour was made from.

                                      John

                                      7.jpg

                                      Hollybank.jpg

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                                        pbacot
                                        last edited by 20 Jan 2017, 02:41

                                        They've got few chimneys there!

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                                          hellnbak
                                          last edited by 21 Jan 2017, 07:04

                                          @tadema said:

                                          You start posting and I'll write you a book 😎
                                          John

                                          Yeah, haven't been doing much new stuff with SU lately. Been meaning to getting around to posting a batch of my one-off models, but obviously that hasn't worked out. Inertia sucks 😞

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