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    • L Offline
      Lersince1991
      last edited by

      @cotty said:

      Maybe Bitmap to mesh is not the route of choice here.

      Thomthoms note:
      "Note! Generates two triangles per pixel!
      250x250 pixel image generates a mesh of ~125K faces! ( 250 * 250 * 2 )"

      for your first image: 1360x1360x2 = 3.699.200 faces!

      Can you share those images here?

      It is the only way I can generate the terrain from this and there are only 7 different colours/ levels, so once generated I could reduce the mesh significantly using cleanup3 (merge faces & remove stray edges). I may then smooth it using artisan or similar.

      Or perhaps the "Mesh from bitmap" might be better than the height map method, that was I could clean up then select by material and move up or down to create the levels.

      (I have tried using illustrator to live trace and then extrude but the edges never align properly, I tried attaching the example as far as I got with that method, but it'll be even more power hungry in the end, and the file is 10mb)

      Heres the image anyway.

      1360sq

      When milled out I will be layering up 5 different woods with different shades so it will stand out for each layer.

      Here's also an example of the outcome - except this was a contour model using plywood (different site).

      Example (contoured)

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      • Rich O BrienR Offline
        Rich O Brien Moderator
        last edited by

        based off your displacement map Blender can do this...

        Screenshot 2015-04-09 22.14.10.png

        ...and you can control the density/height

        but a collada export of 500k tris result in a 75mb file. importing that into SketchUp you probably need to go make coffee, hoover house, cut lawn etc....

        Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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        • ely862meE Offline
          ely862me
          last edited by

          127 mb πŸ˜„


          bmp.jpg


          bmp wireframe.jpg

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            Lersince1991
            last edited by

            @ely862me said:

            127 mb πŸ˜„

            Wow how on earth did your machine do that?!

            Does it zip for dropbox etc...?

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            • L Offline
              Lersince1991
              last edited by

              or maybe run CleanUp first?

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              • ely862meE Offline
                ely862me
                last edited by

                Actually it did it quite fast and it is not that much of a deal. Just an i7 3770, others than processor speed is not important with sketchup. The eaten memory is just 3.5 gb.
                I am trying to clean it up by bits to not draw it into the not responding mode.

                Question: Why don't use the cam program that creates the code for the cnc? Usually these programs have the ability to create mesh from bitmaps.

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                  Lersince1991
                  last edited by

                  @ely862me said:

                  Actually it did it quite fast and it is not that much of a deal. Just an i7 3770, others than processor speed is not important with sketchup. The eaten memory is just 3.5 gb.
                  I am trying to clean it up by bits to not draw it into the not responding mode.

                  Question: Why don't use the cam program that creates the code for the cnc? Usually these programs have the ability to create mesh from bitmaps.

                  Excellent,

                  Really? I spoke to them any they said they couldn't so been trying all day to do it this way instead. πŸ˜•

                  edit: Plus I need this anyway for the master model for render to be fair.

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                  • ely862meE Offline
                    ely862me
                    last edited by

                    https://www.dropbox.com/s/yuqj2r3jer4mej8/bmp%20a.rar?dl=0 still over 70mb

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                      solo
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                      18mb

                      Terrain.png

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                      • ely862meE Offline
                        ely862me
                        last edited by

                        That looks better because the heights are not as divided as mine.
                        Anyway, I believe that the image itself is a bit over exaggerated in details for the job requested. Perhaps some smooth transitions, like a wavy terrain would be more like it.


                        new map.rar


                        new map.jpg

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                          Lersince1991
                          last edited by

                          Many thanks for the help everyone, its looking fantastic, I think ely862me's version has worked the best as it is the healthiest and has the most detail.

                          I'll be sure to post final photographs up when I can!

                          ely862me: It would be good if you could explain your workflow? Just that there seems to be a noise where I would expect flat surfaces, I actually quite like it but just wondered if you did it in a more powerful program like the suggested blender? or wether it is in fact from sketchup?

                          Many thanks again, excellent help from the guru's!

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                          • ely862meE Offline
                            ely862me
                            last edited by

                            You're welcome!
                            Which one are you referring to? The first or this last one ?
                            The first one is achieved with Bitmap to mesh plugin and cleaned up. Perhaps the height which I chose made it that way.

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                            • Rich O BrienR Offline
                              Rich O Brien Moderator
                              last edited by

                              attached is a zipped .blend file. you can see in the animated .gif below the setting to change to affect the height...

                              landscape.gif

                              ...when happy click the apply button on all 3 modifiers to make the actual mesh and export to .dae

                              landscape.zip

                              this will tax your system less than SketchUp will and give you more control.

                              Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                                pilou
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                                Appetizing birthday cake! πŸ˜„

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                                My Little site :)

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                                • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                  Rich O Brien Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  [edg3d:3t8cla6v]SoFlZ8yn4gXn6nB[/edg3d:3t8cla6v]

                                  polycrunching the mesh can get it as low as <3mb...

                                  landscape.zip

                                  ...an interesting challenge for sure. thanks for sharing it!

                                  looking forward to final output.

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                                    hellnbak
                                    last edited by

                                    My computer could handle it, but I couldn't. Most of what you guys are talking about is WAY over my head πŸ˜’

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                                      Lersince1991
                                      last edited by

                                      Completed! πŸ‘

                                      Took 60 hours on the CNC milling bed using a 6mm drill bit, I wanted smaller but it was unrealistic.
                                      from 36mm Birch plywood (2x 18mm 4' x 4').

                                      Next stages for it are to fill in areas of water with resin, not decided on the colour or to leave it clear yet though!
                                      And 3D printed buildings will be set on top of that.

                                      I will also use the digital model for some renders.

                                      IMG_3602.jpg
                                      IMG_3603.jpg
                                      IMG_3604.jpg

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                                      • ely862meE Offline
                                        ely862me
                                        last edited by

                                        Nice ! πŸ‘
                                        60 hours , woah, is it worthy ? Power consumption wise ?
                                        I hope to finish my CNC setup soon and I will be looking forward for some tips and tricks about sketchup and cnc.

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                                          Lersince1991
                                          last edited by

                                          Hi, Just a follow up.

                                          I've attached a photo of the final model including 3d printed parts and 5kg of tinted black resin for the water and a welded steel stand consisting of 18 unsupported legs.

                                          If your interested you can see the rest of the project which is now on my website, all modelled in sketchup and rendered manually in photoshop. - I still have a lot of images to add but you can scroll down to view whats there at the minute.

                                          http://www.lukeriggall.co.uk/architecture/the-arc-centre

                                          The final master model stats were around 25 million edges, 10 million faces within 400k components, performance was manageable (on 2015) by using layers.

                                          28f.jpg

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                                          • KrisidiousK Offline
                                            Krisidious
                                            last edited by

                                            Nice work guys... Nice method Rich. An interesting project. I saw one online that used plywood sheets and created a large and rolling topographical map and was then filled with glass and in the end it made a beautiful body of water cut from earth.

                                            Only a few thousand...

                                            :DUFFY

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                                            http://duffylondon.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Abyss-Table_03b_web-800x800.jpg

                                            And here's another I liked. More simple and natural... As well as feasible.

                                            http://netdna.coolthings.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/greg-klassen-river-collection-tables-1.jpg

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