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    • Dave RD Offline
      Dave R
      last edited by

      64-bit or 32-bit?

      Would it help if I just make a screen shot of my thumbnails and you can look at them instead? πŸ˜„

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      • hellnbakH Offline
        hellnbak
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        Probably a dumb question, but have you tried all the options here?


        2014-11-23_163846.png

        "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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        • M Offline
          mrossk
          last edited by

          I'm not familiar with that menu. Where is it?

          https://www.mkaplanfinefurniture.com/

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          • Rich O BrienR Offline
            Rich O Brien Moderator
            last edited by

            @helnbak

            those are options related to Mystic Thumbs and not part of the Windows OS

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            • hellnbakH Offline
              hellnbak
              last edited by

              Well, just click on the File option, and it should list Thumbnail, click on it
              a.png

              2014-11-23_163846.png

              "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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              • hellnbakH Offline
                hellnbak
                last edited by

                @rich o brien said:

                @helnbak

                those are options related to Mystic Thumbs and not part of the Windows OS

                Yeah, I knew it was Mystic Thumbs, just thought I would throw it out there FWIW

                "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                • M Offline
                  mrossk
                  last edited by

                  oh, gotcha. I have regular non-mystic thumbs. Boring, but they've served me well

                  https://www.mkaplanfinefurniture.com/

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                  • M Offline
                    mrossk
                    last edited by

                    Here's another possible clue. If in the file menu, I click "show all files" instead of just "skp" files, the few backup files ("skB),show their thumbnails. So the SKB files have thumbnails, but the regular SKP do not. That seems weird.

                    https://www.mkaplanfinefurniture.com/

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                    • M Offline
                      mrossk
                      last edited by

                      One more thing- I've noticed that the same issue applies to PDF files on my computer. I used to see thumbnails of those files, now I just see a big "PDF" logo. I imagine this must be some Windows or Explorer setting. Anyone familiar with the behind-the-scenes workings to give me a heads up?

                      https://www.mkaplanfinefurniture.com/

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                      • KrisidiousK Offline
                        Krisidious
                        last edited by

                        What exact OS are you on? What bit? I take it 64bit... Is it an upgrade or a full install. If you're having issues with seeing thumbnails on multiple programs I would say it's not SU related. Have you tried running windows installer again and giving windows a fresh start on system files?

                        When is the last time you saw thumbnails? was it recently? what have you installed in the meantime?

                        http://windows.microsoft.com/es-es/windows-vista/turn-back-time-on-your-pc-undo-system-changes-with-system-restore

                        By: Kristoff Rand
                        Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                        • TIGT Offline
                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by

                          On a 64bit PC with SketchUp v2015 Pro the Registry entry:
                          HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.skp\ShellEx\{BB2E617C-0920-11d1-9A0B-00C04FC2D6C1}
                          Should have the Default value of:
                          {A86C8053-587B-4dfb-A5E2-54E9803E4463}
                          Which in turn is a reference to SketchUp's ThumbsUp.dll [the one in the Layout folder, NOT the SketchUp folder!]...
                          You can copy that 'value' in full from the .skb entry !
                          I found on mine it was set incorrectly.
                          I changed it as set uout above and now the thumbnails appear for SKP files...
                          Edit the Registry with Run > regedit at your own risk !!!

                          TIG

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                          • KrisidiousK Offline
                            Krisidious
                            last edited by

                            Tig, yours was set incorrectly during factory install? Or it just happened somehow?

                            By: Kristoff Rand
                            Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                            • TIGT Offline
                              TIG Moderator
                              last edited by

                              @krisidious said:

                              Tig, yours was set incorrectly during factory install? Or it just happened somehow?
                              It was just wrong 'somehow'.
                              I did NOT initially get any thumbnails in v2015 64bit, but that Registry tweak fixed it.
                              Obviously, I had not previously been getting thumbnails in 32bit v2014 on the 64 bit PC as they are not compatible...
                              If I recall that Registry entry was either not set up with any 'value', or perhaps it was referring to a wrong 'value' - I can't recall - anyway, it now works ! πŸ˜„
                              It's odd that the ThumbsUp.dll path that is referred to in the convolutions of the Registry is to the one in the Layout folder rather than then one in the SketchUp folder - but I see it's the same in v2014 too... πŸ˜•
                              What values do you get for that Registry entry?
                              I think they are common across 64bt PCs...

                              TIG

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                              • KrisidiousK Offline
                                Krisidious
                                last edited by

                                But, I bet you were Beta huh? you could have had an old install of 2015 put something funky in.

                                I'll check mine.

                                Currently, I have large thumbs for any newly saved files, but all small thumbs for older files. Need a batch program to update all the thumbs.

                                By: Kristoff Rand
                                Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                • TIGT Offline
                                  TIG Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  2015M1 is out in the download area - a poor-do by Trimble who have failed to announce it for three days !
                                  Does your SketchUp.ShellExtension point to the logical ThumbsUp.dll or the Layout one ?
                                  Under CLSID ?

                                  TIG

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                                  • KrisidiousK Offline
                                    Krisidious
                                    last edited by

                                    logical ThumbsUp.dll it's value is {A86C8053-587B-4DFB-A5E2-54E9803E4463}

                                    By: Kristoff Rand
                                    Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                    • TIGT Offline
                                      TIG Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      That is the "illogical" dll !
                                      If you do a find based on that string, it takes you to a Layout path !
                                      There are two of these dll files supplied with a SketchUp installion, one in the Layout folder and another in the SketchUp folder.
                                      One might have thought that the SketchUp folder one would be referred to regarding SketchUp's SKP thumbnail display, and not the Layout one - although they do appear to be identical !
                                      This odd path is set up like this in v2015 and v2014 !
                                      The string '\ThumbsUp.dll' only ever appears in conjunction with a 'Layout' path, AND it is linked back to SKP etc...
                                      It never appears connected to SketchUp directly !

                                      TIG

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                                      • KrisidiousK Offline
                                        Krisidious
                                        last edited by

                                        Mine is set correctly and I got it the day it was released. I don't recall any updates as of yet. I'm on Win 7 Ultimate 64bit.

                                        regedit-skp thumb ref.JPG

                                        By: Kristoff Rand
                                        Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                        • KrisidiousK Offline
                                          Krisidious
                                          last edited by

                                          Sorry Tig... I messed up that screenshot somehow. look again. I fixed it.

                                          CLSID has a default value of {A86C8053-587B-4DFB-A5E2-54E9803E4463}

                                          be it logical or not I have no idea. I do have thumbnails in Explorer, SU Import and SU Open/Saveas though.

                                          By: Kristoff Rand
                                          Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                          • TIGT Offline
                                            TIG Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            That {A86C8053-587B-4DFB-A5E2-54E9803E4463} refers to the ../Layout/ThumbsUp.dll, which seems illogical as it's setting up a SketchUp SKP thumbnail AND there is a ../SketchUp/ThumbsUp.dll
                                            It works but it makes no sense !

                                            TIG

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