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    • KathrynGK Offline
      KathrynG
      last edited by

      The red and white column is what I ended up with after my happy accident the first time, and the second time, this is as far as I can get.

      Screen Shot 2014-11-19 at 8.15.30 PM.pngSecond try

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      • ely862meE Offline
        ely862me
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        Either your segments don't touch each other or your helixes don't touch the end of the cylinder .

        Could you upload your model ?

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        • gillesG Offline
          gilles
          last edited by

          I think they are connected but these are segments not curves, erease or group the circle then try a triple-click.

          " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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          • jeff hammondJ Offline
            jeff hammond
            last edited by

            regardless of how you choose to draw the helix & cylinder.. maybe to get a better representation of the things in the photo, use 3 helixes on the cylinder .. 1 circle segment apart..
            select the middle helix and scale it.

            untitled.jpg

            dotdotdot

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            • emerald15E Offline
              emerald15
              last edited by

              Hi Kathryn
              Gosh! you were all busy yesterday - I saw your initial post and you were already getting assistance. (Good here, isn't it!). Congratulations on your achievements so far & don't quit... I think everyone's been through that 'Doh!' stage and the forum members are incredibly helpful and generous. Don't forget to show us the end results!

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              • gillesG Offline
                gilles
                last edited by

                @kathryng said:

                gilles:
                Installed and experimenting, but I am not understanding the 5 entities? It worked with the component, but of course that is not the look I am going for, the other one is, and when I follow what you did, I get nothing ?

                "5 entities" just says its raw geometries.


                Screw1_5#01basics - #1.jpg


                Screw1_5#01basics - #2.jpg


                Screw1_5#01basics - #3.jpg


                Screw1_5#01basics - #4.jpg


                Screw1_5#01basics - #5.jpg


                Screw1_5#01basics - #6.jpg


                Screw1_5#01basics - #7.jpg


                Screw1_5#01basics - #8.jpg


                Screw1_5#01basics.skp

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                • KathrynGK Offline
                  KathrynG
                  last edited by

                  Hi ely862me.

                  Sorry, gave it a rest last night to watch a little television. I am going back to it today though. Call me stubborn, but I feel the need to get it done exactly as in the tutorial, not with any workarounds, not that they don't work, and not that I am not eternally grateful for any and all help.

                  Uploading the model here that did work for some reason for dissection, and I look forward to hearing the analysis, critiques and comments.

                  This has actually been wonderful seeing so many people coming together on an enigma for two of us.

                  Thanks to all for the huge effort and interest.


                  Candy Cane Column.skp

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                  • ely862meE Offline
                    ely862me
                    last edited by

                    This model is also faulty, if you follow the helixes you will notice that at some point, there are some extra lines that shouldn't be there.

                    I was looking for the model that didn't worked for you.


                    test.skp

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                    • KathrynGK Offline
                      KathrynG
                      last edited by

                      Opps - sorry - OK here it is. Will look for the extra lines on the previous one. Learning...


                      Incorrect helix.skp

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                      • BoxB Offline
                        Box
                        last edited by

                        There is a gap at the top, simply push the face down to join the lines and it works.


                        Gap.JPG


                        Gap gone.JPG

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                        • ntxdaveN Offline
                          ntxdave
                          last edited by

                          Well, I gave it a rest last night and FINALLY, I GOT IT 😍

                          Here is my example.
                          Capture - Spiral.PNG
                          I have to admit that Jeff's 3 helix example made me see the light!!

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                          • ntxdaveN Offline
                            ntxdave
                            last edited by

                            Here is another one using Jeff's 3 helix method. I used the Helix tool (in the 3D Shapes context menu). A little trickier with the scaling but another interesting affect. Once drawn and scaled, I created a box and trimmed the top so that the scaled helix did not stick up above the cylinder.

                            Capture - Helix Spiral.PNG

                            For any others who may care, here are the steps I used to create this one:

                            1. Created a helix Draw>3D Shapes>Helix
                            2. Rotated 2 copies of the helix by 15[sup:bhfl8sky]0[/sup:bhfl8sky] Selected helix Ctrl-Rotate 15 2x
                            3. Created a circle the same radius as the helix
                            4. Used Push/Pull to extrude the circle to the same height as the helix using inference for the correct height
                            5. Selected all items then right-clicked and selected Explode
                            6. Selected the top row of the helix's on the cylinder face and used the scale too to extrude
                            7. Selected the cylinder faces and used the scale tool to get the cylinder back into shape (this had to be done multiple times to get things back into the proper cylinder shape)
                            8. Used the bucket tool to add color to the faces the way I wanted it
                            9. Since one of the extruded helix faces now extended above the cylinder, I created a box that was larger than the diameter of the cylinder and helix faces and then made it a group
                            10. Selected the helix/cylinder shapes and made them a group
                            11. Placed the box at the top of the helix/cylinder at the height I wanted and then selected both the box and helix/cylinder and clicked on the Subtract Solids tool to trim the top

                            Hope someone finds these steps useful and/or informative.

                            Once again - Thanks Jeff, Box and others for opening my eyes. I had watch that original video several times but the real trick was in some of the subtle things that you do not really see clearly in the video. In particular, the Select All - Explode and being able to triple click on the line segments to select them all.

                            Learning new things can be fun even if you do not have any particular place to go apply them.

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                            • jeff hammondJ Offline
                              jeff hammond
                              last edited by

                              @ntxdave said:

                              Here is another one using Jeff's 3 helix method. I used the Helix tool (in the 3D Shapes context menu). A little trickier with the scaling but another interesting affect.

                              that's happening because you're scaling using the shift key (uniform) while using a middle scale handle or- not using the shift key and planar inference with a top-corner handle

                              anyway, grab one of the corner-middle scale handles, press&hold option/alt key, scale then use the measurements box for uniformity.. i.e. enter 2.5,2.5 in the box

                              dotdotdot

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                              • ntxdaveN Offline
                                ntxdave
                                last edited by

                                @jeff hammond said:

                                @ntxdave said:

                                Here is another one using Jeff's 3 helix method. I used the Helix tool (in the 3D Shapes context menu). A little trickier with the scaling but another interesting affect.

                                that's happening because you're scaling using the shift key (uniform) while using a middle scale handle or- not using the shift key and planar inference with a top-corner handle

                                anyway, grab one of the corner-middle scale handles, press&hold option/alt key, scale then use the measurements box for uniformity.. i.e. enter 2.5,2.5 in the box

                                Thanks Jeff - again a good piece of information to tuck away for future reference.

                                Seems like there is just no end to things to learn. Particularly if they are features you do not use on a regular basis. Again, all part of the continued learning process.

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                                • Dave RD Offline
                                  Dave R
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                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  Seems like there is just no end to things to learn. Particularly if they are features you do not use on a regular basis. Again, all part of the continued learning process.

                                  Indeed!

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                                  • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                    jeff hammond
                                    last edited by

                                    treespiral.jpg
                                    i cheated ;)

                                    dotdotdot

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                                    • BoxB Offline
                                      Box
                                      last edited by

                                      I didn't. πŸ˜‰

                                      http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s296/storeben/SU/Ball Race.gif

                                      I did reduce the quality of the gif to make it easier on the page though.

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                                      • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                        jeff hammond
                                        last edited by

                                        @box
                                        is your gif playing backwards or is it artistic license?

                                        dotdotdot

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                                        • BoxB Offline
                                          Box
                                          last edited by

                                          I used magnets.

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                                          • Dave RD Offline
                                            Dave R
                                            last edited by

                                            I didn't cheat, either.

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