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    [Plugin][$] JointPushPull Interactive - v4.9a - 02 Apr 25

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    • panixiaP 離線
      panixia
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      @box said:

      Hi Fredo
      There seems to be an issue with JPP Normal.
      It doesn't produce sides.
      This is running 2021.1.299 on Win 7 with Lib 11.9c and JPP 4.4e

      That's 100% because you set "borders" to "none". 👍

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      • BoxB 離線
        Box
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        @panixia said:

        That's 100% because you set "borders" to "none". 👍

        I was sure I had checked that, in fact I'm still sure that I changed to to None while trying to make it work.
        But you are absolutely correct, as soon as I set it to Contour or Grid it works perfectly.
        Sorry Fredo, all good.

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        • panixiaP 離線
          panixia
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          @box said:

          @panixia said:

          That's 100% because you set "borders" to "none". 👍

          I was sure I had checked that, in fact I'm still sure that I changed to to None while trying to make it work.
          But you are absolutely correct, as soon as I set it to Contour or Grid it works perfectly.
          Sorry Fredo, all good.

          Glad that it helped.

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          • BoxB 離線
            Box
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            @panixia said:

            Glad that it helped.

            One for the D'oh book.

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            • panixiaP 離線
              panixia
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              @box said:

              @panixia said:

              Glad that it helped.

              One for the D'oh book.

              Lol! 🤣

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              • Dave RD 離線
                Dave R
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                @evilboris said:

                Can anybody help, I get this error with any object using round

                This is in SketchUp 8 as your profile indicates you are using?

                Etaoin Shrdlu

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                • E 離線
                  EvilBoris
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                  Can anybody help?, I get this error with any object using round

                  Date: 13-Oct-21 15:39:35
                  An error occurred in Round Push Pull
                  Error in Analysis of model

                  undefined method `normalize' for nil:NilClass

                  jointpushpullalgo.rbe: 1408 -- block in round_compute_direction
                  jointpushpullalgo.rbe: 1406 -- each
                  jointpushpullalgo.rbe: 1406 -- round_compute_direction
                  jointpushpullalgo.rbe: 1353 -- block in block_prepare_vertices_R
                  jointpushpullalgo.rbe: 1353 -- each
                  jointpushpullalgo.rbe: 1353 -- block_prepare_vertices_R
                  jointpushpullalgo.rbe: 1111 -- block in block_prepare_vertices_all
                  jointpushpullalgo.rbe: 1111 -- each
                  jointpushpullalgo.rbe: 1111 -- block_prepare_vertices_all
                  jointpushpullalgo.rbe: 519 -- algo_prepare_calculation_exec
                  jointpushpullalgo.rbe: 499 -- algo_prepare_calculation
                  jointpushpulltool.rbe: 837 -- dragging_start
                  jointpushpulltool.rbe: 1527 -- onLButtonDown

                  I can do this with a new document and a cube and I get this error or in an existing model.

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                  • JQLJ 離線
                    JQL
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                    Cheers,

                    I just found out about JPP Thickening. I use JPP for ages and never noticed it there and now it just solved an issue I had. Great! Just great!

                    Thanks!

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                    • fredo6F 離線
                      fredo6
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                      JPP Thickening is just Joint Push Pull without a button palette. Which issue did it solve?

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                      • JQLJ 離線
                        JQL
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                        I was trying to offset all faces of a surface exactly 20cm and both the regular JPP and Normal JPP failed while thickening seemed to work.

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                        • Peter CzyP 離線
                          Peter Czy
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                          Hello, I've been working with this plugin for a long time.
                          This question comes up in our German forum:
                          Almost all surfaces (objects) can be thickened.
                          Is it also possible to make an object thinner


                          without leaving the side edges and surfaces remaining? If it is possible, please write us how it works.
                          Many Thanks
                          Peter

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                          • BoxB 離線
                            Box
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                            One of the setting with JPP is the second face, if you untick the that then moving inward will make things 'thinner' if that's what you mean.
                            If not, you need to show an example of what you mean.

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                            • Peter CzyP 離線
                              Peter Czy
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                              It's right, the objects get thinner when I push inward. However, edges and surfaces remain that have to be laboriously erased on a complicated object.
                              I mean those edges and lines marked with red arrows.
                              Joint Push Pull.jpg
                              Peter

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                              • BoxB 離線
                                Box
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                                Many questions, many possibilities.
                                Can you not Scale the object or Move the face.
                                The problem with questions like this is there is no single answer, so much depends on the shape and what you want the result to be.
                                Attaching a model would help.

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                                • Peter CzyP 離線
                                  Peter Czy
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                                  Its only a simple testfileIt's just one question.
                                  Use Joint Push Pull to thin an object without creating edges and faces.
                                  If I just move the face, the thickness won't stay even. The same applies to scaling.

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                                  • BoxB 離線
                                    Box
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                                    Often the tool you think you need isn't, a simple offset and follow me is another way to do what you want, PP to correct the ends if necessary.
                                    The main point being that there are many ways to do things and some times it pays to think simply.

                                    https://i.imgur.com/gKWTSDP.gif

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                                    • Peter CzyP 離線
                                      Peter Czy
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                                      Ok, thanks for the other option to change a model. That was of course a very simple test model.
                                      The time required for your option is similar to that of deleting these surfaces / edges according to JPP.
                                      In principle, we don't have an exact answer as to why these edges and faces remain when the object is thinned.
                                      I am sure that only the developer fredo6 can answer that.
                                      I will post this result in our German forum.
                                      Thanks again.
                                      Peter

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                                      • BoxB 離線
                                        Box
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                                        The reason the edges and faces exist is the nature of the tool, it is pushing back following the face and therefore creating extra geometry.
                                        This is not a bug of a fault in the software, it is doing what is expected.

                                        Use the undo option and jpp less.

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                                        • Dave RD 離線
                                          Dave R
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                                          Pay attention to what is actually happening when you use JPP. It's extruding in the direction of the normals of the faces as it is designed to do. As Box indicates, it's doing what it is supposed to do even though that's not what you want. If you must use JPP to add the thickness and you want a different thickness, the easy thing to do would be to copy the original surface and run JPP to extrude to the desired thickness.

                                          Etaoin Shrdlu

                                          %

                                          (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

                                          G28 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0

                                          M30

                                          %

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                                          • Peter CzyP 離線
                                            Peter Czy
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                                            Hello Dave and Box,
                                            Yes, I think the best option is to erase the face that has already been made too thick and recreate the reduced thickness.
                                            Thank you!
                                            Peter

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