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    • jeff hammondJ Offline
      jeff hammond
      last edited by

      @tig said:

      Here's v1.2 http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=446462#p446462
      Further robustness in enabling/disabling/graying and suitable? tests [thanks to Jim!].
      Seems to be especially for MACs 😄

      Hi Tig
      i'm still getting the same greyed out problem.
      is there anything i can type in the console or ?? to help figure out what the problem is?
      thanks

      dotdotdot

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
        last edited by

        Is there no difference at all - if you have nothing preselected, or one edge preselected, or one face preselected, or lots of things [including some edges] preselected ?
        The menu/toolbar are only enabled if there's at least one face in the current selection.
        The context-menu only appears if there's at least one face in the current selection.

        Copy/paste+<enter> these into the Ruby Console and report the results:

        with nothing preselected TIG::Smart_offsetter.suitable?()
        with one edge preselected TIG::Smart_offsetter.suitable?()
        with one face preselected TIG::Smart_offsetter.suitable?()
        with lots of things [including some edges] preselected TIG::Smart_offsetter.suitable?()

        with one edge preselected TIG::Smart_offsetter.dialog()
        with one face preselected TIG::Smart_offsetter.dialog()

        😕

        TIG

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        • jeff hammondJ Offline
          jeff hammond
          last edited by

          oops 😳
          it actually is working now..
          it's just the toolbar that remains greyed out at all times but the menu item becomes available once an appropriate selection has been made..

          (which, for me personally, is fine.. i more likely than not wont want the toolbar anyway.. i think id use it with a modifier key added to my offset shortcut)

          dotdotdot

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          • jeff hammondJ Offline
            jeff hammond
            last edited by

            here are these results.. (since you took the time to write them.. i better take the time to report 😉 )

            @tig said:

            Copy/paste+<enter> these into the Ruby Console and report the results:

            with nothing preselected TIG::Smart_offsetter.suitable?()
            false

            with one edge preselected TIG::Smart_offsetter.suitable?()
            false

            with one face preselected TIG::Smart_offsetter.suitable?()
            true

            with lots of things [including some edges] preselected TIG::Smart_offsetter.suitable?()
            true (drew two squares and selected all)

            with one edge preselected TIG::Smart_offsetter.dialog()
            warning- PreSelect Face[s !]
            ruby - nil

            with one face preselected TIG::Smart_offsetter.dialog()
            (works as expected)

            dotdotdot

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            • jeff hammondJ Offline
              jeff hammond
              last edited by

              uh.. not sure what the deal is but..

              upon entering all of that stuff in the console, the toolbar is now working
              😕

              [edit] but then.. i quit sketchup then relaunched and the toolbar is greyed out again regardless of selection.. the menu item is working though

              dotdotdot

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              • Chris FullmerC Offline
                Chris Fullmer
                last edited by

                voodoo. definitely voodoo at work here.

                Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                All my Plugins I've written

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                • jeff hammondJ Offline
                  jeff hammond
                  last edited by

                  @chris fullmer said:

                  voodoo. definitely voodoo at work here.

                  ha.. that darn voodoo! 😄

                  some more info:

                  so here's what the deal with the toolbar is.. (in this example, i have 3 squares with faces drawn)

                  •cmmdA (select all)
                  •toolbar remains greyed out (menu item is live)
                  •do something else (rotate, pan, etc)
                  •toolbar becomes active
                  •deselect all
                  •toolbar remains active (menu item greys out)
                  •do something else (switch tool, orbit, etc)
                  •toolbar greys out

                  so it appears, on mac, that something has to happen other than simply selecting in order to jump start the toolbar into updating it's state

                  dotdotdot

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                  • C Offline
                    ccbiggs
                    last edited by

                    Hey Tig,
                    I am getting the same thing Jeff has. But since Jeff actually knows what he is doing, he can do the ruby troubleshooting. Will stay tuned to see what you fellas figure out.
                    It works great on my windows machine at home.
                    Thanks Tig

                    Update
                    Jeff says his works. It does not work on my mac.
                    with nothing preselected TIG::Smart_offsetter.suitable?()

                    TIG::Smart_offsetter.suitable?()
                    false

                    with one edge preselected TIG::Smart_offsetter.suitable?()

                    TIG::Smart_offsetter.suitable?()
                    false

                    with one face preselected TIG::Smart_offsetter.suitable?()

                    TIG::Smart_offsetter.suitable?()
                    true

                    with lots of things [including some edges] preselected TIG::Smart_offsetter.suitable?()

                    TIG::Smart_offsetter.suitable?()
                    true

                    with one edge preselected TIG::Smart_offsetter.dialog()
                    TIG.Smart_offset:

                    PreSelect Face[s] !

                    with one face preselected TIG::Smart_offsetter.dialog()
                    Offset [+/-ve=out/

                    My drop down "Tools" Menu works with a face preselected. The toolbar does not.
                    Nothing works with just edges selected.
                    If you need me to check anything else, and I do not get right back to ya, I am not ignoring you I am just here there and everywhere today.

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                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by

                      Here's v1.3 http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=446462#p446462
                      Removed 'suitable?' method, to suit MACs, more error traps etc.
                      Try this and report back... 😒

                      TIG

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                      • C Offline
                        ccbiggs
                        last edited by

                        It works the same for me. With a face selected the drop down tools menu item will work but the single icon toolbar will not.

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                        • TIGT Offline
                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by

                          @ccbiggs said:

                          It works the same for me. With a face selected the drop down tools menu item will work but the single icon toolbar will not.
                          Which is weird... because they BOTH use 'cmd' and share the same enabled/grayed code...
                          To check that the toolbar WILL work somehow... can you please edit the file 'TIG-Smart_offset.rb' on your MAC with a plain text editor [BBedit???] and find the three lines starting at #117 reading:

                          		cmd.set_validation_proc{
                          			Sketchup.active_model.selection.grep(Sketchup;;Face)[0] ? MF_ENABLED ; MF_GRAYED
                          		}
                          

                          and change them to read

                          		#cmd.set_validation_proc{
                          			#Sketchup.active_model.selection.grep(Sketchup;;Face)[0] ? MF_ENABLED ; MF_GRAYED
                          		#}
                          

                          i.e. add a # in front of each of the three lines to disable them.
                          Now the tool's command should always be 'enabled' in the menu & the toolbar button, if you try to use it without a Face in the Selection you'll get an error messagebox...
                          Let me know how this goes...

                          Incidentally, BEFORE [& after] you make the changes... do you get the tool's context-menu item IF there's a Face in the Selection ?

                          TIG

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                          • jeff hammondJ Offline
                            jeff hammond
                            last edited by

                            @tig said:

                            To check that the toolbar WILL work somehow... can you please edit the file 'TIG-Smart_offset.rb' on your MAC with a plain text editor [BBedit???] and find the three lines starting at #117 reading:

                            		cmd.set_validation_proc{
                            > 			Sketchup.active_model.selection.grep(Sketchup;;Face)[0] ? MF_ENABLED ; MF_GRAYED
                            > 		}
                            

                            and change them to read

                            		#cmd.set_validation_proc{
                            > 			#Sketchup.active_model.selection.grep(Sketchup;;Face)[0] ? MF_ENABLED ; MF_GRAYED
                            > 		#}
                            

                            i.e. add a # in front of each of the three lines to disable them.

                            that does the trick.. the toolbar is always active now and i'll just receive an error if i try to run the tool without an appropriate selection..

                            [context menu works also.. but it worked prior to disabling the above lines]

                            dotdotdot

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                            • TIGT Offline
                              TIG Moderator
                              last edited by

                              OK !
                              The current tool [v1.3] works just fine for PCs... but it baulks on a MAC with some of the enable/grayed code for the toolbar button - which is weird... 😕

                              The editing of the three lines of code in the script to disable them with a leading #... as indicated in the preceding posts... will fix it for MAC users...

                              I'll see if I can get a version working properly for PC and MAC without this cludge ! 😞

                              In the meantime, please report any issues...

                              Merry Xmas 😄
                              Apocalypse averted! 😛
                              Phew! 😉

                              TIG

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                              • simon le bonS Offline
                                simon le bon
                                last edited by

                                Thank you for this one really "smart" dear TIG +++
                                We were used to the quirks of the native offset tool as a fatality. It is a surprise to realize that it was not the case 😮 😮 😮

                                Merry Christmas to you too 😍

                                Simon

                                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIG-Smart_offsetv1320121221.jpg

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                                • D Offline
                                  driven
                                  last edited by

                                  @tig said:

                                  I'll see if I can get a version working properly for PC and MAC without this cludge ! 😞

                                  I posted this on the first page and it will work on both?
                                  set validation doesn't seem to work on macs on Toolbars

                                  cmd2=UI;;Command.new('TIG.Smart_offset'){self.dialog()}
                                  cmd2.small_icon=File.join(dir, 'TIG-Smart_offset.png')
                                  cmd2.large_icon=File.join(dir, 'TIG-Smart_offset.png')
                                  toolbar=UI;;Toolbar.new('TIG.Smart_offset')
                                  toolbar.add_item(cmd2)
                                  

                                  john

                                  learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                  • TIGT Offline
                                    TIG Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    Here's v1.4 http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=446462#p446462
                                    It now only applies toolbar enabled/grayed [validation] on PCs; on a MAC the toolbar button is always enabled, but when you attempt to use it without a suitable preselection there's an error-messagebox...
                                    This now means PC and MAC users should have a quite similar usage 😄

                                    TIG

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                                    • DareDevilD Offline
                                      DareDevil
                                      last edited by

                                      Thanks for this advanced tool ! 👍 Nice to solve round edge offset.

                                      But I have a two requests :
                                      First, (crossing post with Pilou 😉) I think when the offset cross itself, there is a chance it make a hole. Your Smart Offset fill all the shape. It will be cool if your toll can solve this case.
                                      offset.jpg
                                      The second is a bonus setting to create a round offset like this :
                                      round-offset.jpgI don't know if it's "easy" to make this kind of function, perhaps crossing your offset tool and your Chamfer tool from 2D Tools.

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                                      • pilouP Offline
                                        pilou
                                        last edited by

                                        From Daredevil
                                        Original
                                        Smart_Offest
                                        Normal result wished

                                        http://sketchucation.com/forums/download/file.php?id=98395&mode=view/rokbox.jpg

                                        Frenchy Pilou
                                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                        My Little site :)

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                                        • TIGT Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          DareDevil/Pilou

                                          I had been following your discussions about this in the French forum...
                                          I know what you are asking for, but it is very complicated to come up with an algorithm to remove the 'hole' - it's easy for us to 'see' what's to go and what's to stay, but in code it is very complicated to ensure that the unwanted parts are removed.
                                          If anyone has any ideas [even seemingly silly ones?] I am open to suggestions...

                                          On the 'rounded corner' matter... This effectively a 'multi-fillet' tool.
                                          The main issue I see in you'd need to select just the edges to fillet and not a face, otherwise in the case you illustrated the already curved part would potentially get 'multi-filleted'...

                                          That's x6 clicks to select the ones needed with a new tool - or x2 to select face & its-edges, then x2+Ctrl+Shift to remove the face and the unwanted arc [or +x1 click to make a fence, e.g. for an 'arc' made from exploded edges...] - say x4 or x5...
                                          OR using the existing 2dFillet tool x2 per vertex = x10 clicks.
                                          But are your few extra clicks worth my lost brain-cells needed to contrive this wonder ?

                                          TIG

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                                          • pilouP Offline
                                            pilou
                                            last edited by

                                            For the multi fillet
                                            Surely not but don't forget the pleasure to find the solution! 😉

                                            Frenchy Pilou
                                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                            My Little site :)

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