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    • Dave RD Offline
      Dave R
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      The ~ just indicates that your dimensions don't fall on increments set by the Precision.

      Ah, well. To each his own.

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      • bmikeB Offline
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        @porch_unplugged said:

        @dave r said:

        I see.

        About 90% of the work I do in LayOut involves dimensions, lots of dimensions, and I don't have any trouble getting accurate dimensions. Maybe it's just me.

        I started getting this ~ symbol in some dimensions as well as there being problems getting vertical dimensions from 2D elevations, where it was picking up different points in the 3rd dimension. i'm just so used to autocad dimensioning (setting up styles etc.) that it's second nature to me. only thing that annoys me is i can't snap to a point with the jpegs.

        but sure if layout works for you, keep going. πŸ‘

        so how are you getting accurate dimensions in autocad by dimensioning jpgs?

        like dave said, to each his own, but i get accurate dimensions...

        https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-I3bxovoorfg/UBmKMN-lGPI/AAAAAAAATgA/yltmPVt9hRY/s800/8-1-12-roundbarn-section.jpg

        https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-CnOoKkgULBM/UBmMs-W-J1I/AAAAAAAATg4/FaiGqkiwXCI/s800/bazaar-garage-6-10-12-shake4.jpg

        https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SP2sdU4ho7k/UFCiawfvwtI/AAAAAAAATsQ/a6GocncGtS8/s800/barn2.jpg

        mike beganyi design + consulting llc

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        • Dave RD Offline
          Dave R
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          Mike, those are beautiful. πŸ‘

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          • porch_unpluggedP Offline
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            @bmike said:

            so how are you getting accurate dimensions in autocad by dimensioning jpgs?

            like dave said, to each his own, but i get accurate dimensions...

            maybe it's just me then.

            At the minute(and i've only really started the thought process really) I'm importing the jpegs with a scale bar and just scaling up to 1:1 in cad. like i said, i can't snap to the end points for dimensions, so for the minute i'm scaling off the sketchup model, and offsetting construction lines in cad to snap to. not ideal i know, and i think i'll probably have to revert to using dimensions in sketchup so they export with the jpegs. this is my first project doing it this way (sketchup to cad), so i'm making it up as i go along. still only in sketch design, so ultra accurate dimensions aren't required yet.

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            • Dave RD Offline
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              That just sounds like a lot of work to me. If it works for you, great. If I had to work that way I think I'd quit and do something else. πŸ˜‰

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                @dave r said:

                That just sounds like a lot of work to me. If it works for you, great. If I had to work that way I think I'd quit and do something else. πŸ˜‰

                It's not too bad, drawing out a clipping mask in layout sounds like a lot more work to me. Doesn't look like I'll be getting Pro and layout any time soon, so it'll have to do. πŸ˜„

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                • bmikeB Offline
                  bmike
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                  @porch_unplugged said:

                  @dave r said:

                  That just sounds like a lot of work to me. If it works for you, great. If I had to work that way I think I'd quit and do something else. πŸ˜‰

                  It's not too bad, drawing out a clipping mask in layout sounds like a lot more work to me. Doesn't look like I'll be getting Pro and layout any time soon, so it'll have to do. πŸ˜„

                  have a look at my layout overview.
                  even if you don't go pro - there are lots of ways to setup your sketchup to streamline your workflow.

                  mike beganyi design + consulting llc

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                  • porch_unpluggedP Offline
                    porch_unplugged
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                    @pbacot said:

                    Brian: Have you tried a dwg export or vector pdf to CAD? I think there a plugins for the dwg or dxf if you don't have pro.

                    thought never crossed my mind, i'll look into it, thanks Peter.

                    @bmike said:

                    have a look at my layout overview.
                    even if you don't go pro - there are lots of ways to setup your sketchup to streamline your workflow.

                    I'm sure I've watched it already, but just waiting for it load again now (rubbish internet connection) Thanks Mike πŸ‘

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                    • pbacotP Offline
                      pbacot
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                      Brian: Have you tried a dwg export or vector pdf to CAD? I think there's a plugins for the dwg or dxf if you don't have pro.

                      MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                        penumbra
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                        How about this? What do you do when you have elements on an elevation that are not orthogonal with the view plane as in walls that are at an angle and receding away from the viewer?

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                        • Dave RD Offline
                          Dave R
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                          What do you mean, "what do you do?" What would you do? Could you post an example?

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                          • TIGT Offline
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                            You could us Fog in SKP scene-tab or a Style with depth-cues - to show them feinter.
                            You could use a SectionPlane in the SKP scene-tab to hide everything towards the back of the model.
                            You could make a large white grouped vertical face on a special layer that's only on in that scene-tab, locate it to obscure the back of the model.
                            Or a shaped mask face overlaid in LayOut to hide them, or even made edgeless and translucent to show what's behind feinter.

                            There are many ways to achieve different effects - you choose or invent one that does what you want... πŸ˜•

                            TIG

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                              penumbra
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                              Thanks tig. Very helpful.

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                              • pbacotP Offline
                                pbacot
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                                Penumbra,

                                In common elevations, one should be able to see background elements of the building. Here is a masterful use of fog by Sonder, in SU and LO:
                                http://sketchucation.com/forums/download/file.php?id=80022&t=1
                                .

                                http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=15911&p=374990#p374467

                                Peter

                                MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                  penumbra
                                  last edited by

                                  Thanks Peter, i find fog difficult to control but once is setup right, looks great.

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                                  • bmikeB Offline
                                    bmike
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                                    @penumbra said:

                                    Thanks Peter, i find fog difficult to control but once is setup right, looks great.

                                    I find it difficult to use as well, likely operator error on my part.

                                    mike beganyi design + consulting llc

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                                    • TIGT Offline
                                      TIG Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      Use [and update] scene-tabs, styles etc to 'remember' your settings for fog, layers etc

                                      TIG

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                                      • S Offline
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                                        Fog is really easy to use. I set it up always in SU saved to the scene. Once you understand how the two arrows work, it is really intuitive. I like to think of the two as - right arrow = overall fog thickness - thicker as you slide to the left. Left arrow = fog depth from view point to your model - gets thinner as you slide it towards the right arrow.

                                        I wish the fog in my brain were so easily controlled.

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                                        • bmikeB Offline
                                          bmike
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                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          Fog is really easy to use. I set it up always in SU saved to the scene. Once you understand how the two arrows work, it is really intuitive. I like to think of the two as - right arrow = overall fog thickness - thicker as you slide to the left. Left arrow = fog depth from view point to your model - gets thinner as you slide it towards the right arrow.

                                          I wish the fog in my brain were so easily controlled.

                                          Do you need a separate style anytime you change the arrows? Or is it remembered per scene like the shadows?

                                          mike beganyi design + consulting llc

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                                          • pbacotP Offline
                                            pbacot
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                                            @bmike said:

                                            Do you need a separate style anytime you change the arrows? Or is it remembered per scene like the shadows?

                                            Per Scene.


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