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    • A Offline
      ArCAD-UK
      last edited by

      Nice idea Mike, I'm working on some compact living projects and it's the sort of solution the end user might like. Obviously this is probably personal preference but if you can sit on a bar stool at a breakfast bar then why do you need to provide a back support.

      I'd agree with TIG the table lift needs some work maybe an office chair type gas strut.

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      • EscapeArtistE Offline
        EscapeArtist
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        I like it, but perhaps you might consider the flanges that are the supports for the base of table. Myself being rather tall and occasionally clumsy, I view those as knee-banging table rattlers. I would waste no time in scooting my seat forward and capsizing a beverage with a well placed knee-shot to the support. A flat, wide, bar-like support that rests directly on the floor or uses slightly recessed wheels would eliminated those bruises and toppled glasses of wine. Low enough to slide beneath the chair base, obviously.

        Just a thought.

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        • Mike LuceyM Offline
          Mike Lucey
          last edited by

          @Rich
          You have not studied the concept. The design is primarily a coffee table then an occasional dining table.

          While the kΓΌre looks funky, it becomes a big useless blob sitting in the middle of the room taking up valuable space when not being used as a dining table πŸ˜‰

          @ Steve
          Yep, you are right. the chair backs are weak. I have to work on that. Maybe even drop the backs.

          @ArCAD-UK / Trevor B
          TIG is right. Lifting the glass table top would require a fair amount of muscle work. I am thinking of going with a lighter wood (ply) top and a very simple way of having two heights - coffee table - dining table.

          @Jeff
          I'm designing for normal humans! Just kidding πŸ˜„
          I take your point. I now think there is no need for casters on either the table or chairs, just some gliders (very short ones) like on sofas, but much smaller.

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
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            The table-top could have a concealed hydraulic ram - like a hatchback car's door, or even some 'springs to assist you in lifting it up easily. To lower it you'd release the 'catch' and it is damped as it settles down too...
            OR 'Ratchet' strips could also allow an incremental lift and lower using a simple sprung 'catch' [that could all be wooden]
            OR how about a 'lever' system in one of the legs [with a flip down/up pedal that is accessed when a chair is slid out] - that can then 'jack' the table up [like a car bottle-jack?] and when released it lets the top slowly settle back down... πŸ€“

            TIG

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            • Mike LuceyM Offline
              Mike Lucey
              last edited by

              Great suggestions TIG. I will play around with those.

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              • hellnbakH Offline
                hellnbak
                last edited by

                Hey Mike, I got to thinking about the seat back problem, and this is something I came up with.

                Adding the extra layer would let you increase the thickness of the seat back. This could also work with the wooden dowels.
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                Probably not the look you were going for, with all the curves, I just started having fun with it πŸ˜† But you get the idea

                Anyhow, just an idea.

                "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                • Mike LuceyM Offline
                  Mike Lucey
                  last edited by

                  That works Steve, well done πŸ‘

                  I am moving towards doing even a more straightforward design that doesn't involve curved plywood.

                  This is great as it turning into a collaboration πŸ‘

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                  • TIGT Offline
                    TIG Moderator
                    last edited by

                    @mike lucey said:

                    That works Steve, well done πŸ‘

                    I am moving towards doing even a more straightforward design that doesn't involve curved plywood.

                    This is great as it turning into a collaboration πŸ‘
                    A square table and 4 square chairs ? 🀣

                    TIG

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                    • Mike LuceyM Offline
                      Mike Lucey
                      last edited by

                      Now there's an idea 😲

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                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by

                        The Sqhair
                        Economical on material too.
                        Simply table-sawn and router rounded-corners etc as needed etc.
                        The table can use a simple foot-operated bottle-jack mechanism to lift it up and on release lower down.
                        The storage under the seats is set back a little to avoid heel-clashes.
                        The seat-back half 'L' slides up/down on dado friction glides [Γ  la draw-slides] with a catch to it lock 'up' ?
                        When the seats are removed from the assembly they are set around the table at 45 degrees on the sides of the square. The seats are on castors.


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                        TIG

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                        • hellnbakH Offline
                          hellnbak
                          last edited by

                          Nice, but those seat-backs don't look very comfortable

                          "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                          • Mike LuceyM Offline
                            Mike Lucey
                            last edited by

                            Now we are getting places.

                            TIG, would that table have a bit of wobble potential? Also I think Steve might be right about the backs not being too comfy.

                            Have you a pic of a 'foot-operated bottle-jack mechanism'? I'm curious about that.

                            I'm not so sure about the seats being on casters but they could be lockable. I think slides might work better.

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                            • A Offline
                              ArCAD-UK
                              last edited by

                              An octagonal shape applied to TIG's design would sort out the seat backs.

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                              • soloS Offline
                                solo
                                last edited by

                                http://cdn.dornob.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/combined-wood-table-chairs-design.jpg

                                http://www.solos-art.com

                                If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                • hellnbakH Offline
                                  hellnbak
                                  last edited by

                                  One possible solution to the seat-back

                                  Sorta looks like a toilet with the seat folded down πŸ˜†


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                                  "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                                  • hellnbakH Offline
                                    hellnbak
                                    last edited by

                                    Maybe a couple of padded armrests for comfort (they could flip up for extra storage)


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                                    "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                                    • Mike LuceyM Offline
                                      Mike Lucey
                                      last edited by

                                      Nice render Pete. But that a full size table. We are trying to figure out a dual coffee / dining table.

                                      Steve, yep! It does look like a commode ..... maybe an idea?

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                                      • hellnbakH Offline
                                        hellnbak
                                        last edited by

                                        When the meal is just too good to interrupt.....


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                                        "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                                        • Mike LuceyM Offline
                                          Mike Lucey
                                          last edited by

                                          πŸ˜†

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                                          • Mike LuceyM Offline
                                            Mike Lucey
                                            last edited by

                                            ...... now a sound proof private curtain πŸ˜‰

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