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    • M Offline
      mark151
      last edited by

      I did a quick style builder too, just to see how it looks like.
      Yes, it is not the best result, but could be used with drawings that will change.

      I attach it, just in case someone could find it useful.


      Linea tratteggiata.style

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      • pbacotP Offline
        pbacot
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        @dave r said:

        That's an interesting idea. I just made a quickie to see what it looks like but it isn't good enough to be used for the sort of application the OP was thinking about.

        I'd still just do it in LayOut and have better control over the line appearance.

        Thanks Dave for trying that out in SB. But just doing it in LO... you mean tracing over every line you want dotted? This would fly in the face of CAD advances in saving time (+ tedium + error), and the interaction of the output to the model (which would seem to be the point of LO). For that matter one can export to a CAD program and have it done in a few clicks.

        In the style tab of LO "SU Model" window, there's a little box for setting line weight. Should be another little menu there for color and dash.

        MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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        • Dave RD Offline
          Dave R
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          Peter, I didn't mean tracing all the lines. I'd still just do it the way I described before. It's pretty quick and yes, you'd lose the direct connection to SU for that part of the LO document but replacing it wouldn't be hard either.

          There is a dashed line plugin available from Smustard. It works but creates some issues in some cases because it divides a line into shorter segments and hides every other line segment.

          It would be nice to be able to draw with dashed lines in SketchUp especially for only some lines.

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          • pbacotP Offline
            pbacot
            last edited by

            OK then. πŸ˜„

            MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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            • M Offline
              mal
              last edited by

              @dave r said:

              In LO, I would create two, overlapping view ports one for each of those scenes. I would render as vector or and then explode the one showing the demolition. After that, the lines can be turned into dashed/dotted lines using the Shape inspector box.

              Hi Dave, thanks so much for your suggestions on the Dave Method. Ive been trying to put it into action and managed the easy bits in SU but Im struggling a bit with everything that came after "in LO". Drawing new dotted lines in LO seems easy enough but I wonder if you could elaborate a bit on your comment. What I would like to know is: How do I render as vector? And how do I explode and change the lines to dashed? I spent quite a bit of time trying to figure it out and the only thing that exploded was my tiny mind lol.

              It seems quite an interesting method, and any suggestions you have would be much appreciated

              Mal

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              • Dave RD Offline
                Dave R
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                Mal, let's see if this helps.


                http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8005/7681405418_76dcd4e095.jpg

                With a SketchUp viewport selected, click on the button in the SketchUp Model inspector labeled "Raster" and choose "Vector".


                http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7122/7681405698_c8c45ec03f.jpg

                After rendering as Vector, right click on the viewport and choose Explode. Note: it will no longer be tied to the SketchUp model.


                http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8021/7681405186_852792a7c0.jpg

                After exploding the viewport, the lines themselves will be highlighted. In the Shape Style inspector, choose the desired dashed line style, set the thickness and dash scale as desired.


                http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8434/7681405530_dde5804835.jpg

                Finished.

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                • M Offline
                  mal
                  last edited by

                  Dave!!

                  That is amazing, and so easy! Thanks for the seamless instructions. Just what I needed.

                  Much appreciated!

                  Mal

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                  • M Offline
                    mal
                    last edited by

                    By the way, I had a go at the Sonder Method, thanks Nick πŸ‘ , and it was just a breeze. Just push pull and poche, and thats it. The jobs done. Maybe if Im going to use SU, I should use its strongest attribute (3D graphics), rather than trying to bang it into shape to suit my old technique.

                    I did the door swings in layout using the arc tool but they turned out like potato wedges... Any tips on avoiding that?

                    Cheers

                    Mal

                    Demolition_1.jpg

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                    • pbacotP Offline
                      pbacot
                      last edited by

                      Mal,
                      Thanks for asking the right questions. I think the Dave and Sonder "methods" should be codified. I'm going to have to review them as well.

                      I think the potato wedges come from the arc objects having a white fill. Remove the fill by toggle /clicking the "Fill" button in the Shape Style window (at least that's how it works on Mac--when I see the Windows screenshots it looks so different to me I'm not sure).

                      Peter

                      MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                      • emerald15E Offline
                        emerald15
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                        @dave r said:

                        explode the one showing the demolition. After that, the lines can be turned into dashed/dotted lines using the Shape inspector box.

                        Ahhh! I didn't know LO could do that! Thanks!

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                          mal
                          last edited by

                          Thanks Peter pbacot, the wedges are gone. I even have some dotted arcs showing doors to be removed.. Happy Days πŸ‘

                          Mal

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                          • EdsonE Offline
                            Edson
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                            @mal said:

                            I did the door swings in layout using the arc tool but they turned out like potato wedges... Any tips on avoiding that?

                            Cheers

                            Mal

                            of course, you can do it later in LO but then you would have to it once for each door. my own way of doing this is: when I model a door component in SU I always create a hidden layer named 2D and place the door swing there. when saving a scene that shows a plan for exporting to LO I switch it on and save. thus you do it only once for each door. that is it.

                            edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre β€’ brasil
                            http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                              mal
                              last edited by

                              Thanks for the tip Edson. Sounds like a good plan. Cheers

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                              • ccaponigroC Offline
                                ccaponigro
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                                Here is another idea. I draw lines in the model and use xline from smusterd.com to change them into guide lines which are dashed. Its crude but at least you can coordinate them right on your model. So if you’re not to persnickety about line type it works and you can place them on layers or hide then as you see fit.


                                sketchup model


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                                • M Offline
                                  mal
                                  last edited by

                                  Good idea CC, I may well use that method. I would also like to reserve the right to use the word "persnickerty" on all of my sketchup drawings.

                                  Thanks for the tips

                                  Mal

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                                  • Dave RD Offline
                                    Dave R
                                    last edited by

                                    I just though I'd add a better example of dotted lines in LayOut. The part indicated was originally lines in the model.


                                    Dotted lines1.png

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                                    • S Offline
                                      sonder
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                                      This thread is a good example of why I love the SU / LO combination. It is so customizable graphically. Really brings the fun back into what used to be the most miserable aspect of architecture. I love seeing all these different methods. Looking forward to basecamp!

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                                      • G Offline
                                        gabewill
                                        last edited by

                                        There is another way still...

                                        Make a scene with only the demo walls shown. Draw a plane that sits above your walls and is large enough to cover the extents of the scene. Put that plane on your demo layer.

                                        Create a style with BACK EDGES turned on. Set that scene to raster in layout, align a vector scene above it with the non-demo layers turned on.


                                        dashed lines example.jpg

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                                        • TreblDT Offline
                                          TreblD
                                          last edited by

                                          Interesting approach Gabewill. To make the box clearer you gotta think outside the box πŸ˜„

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                                          • heyitsmekyleH Offline
                                            heyitsmekyle
                                            last edited by

                                            Hi Guys -

                                            Just posted a reply to this under 'dashed lines' in the SU side of the forum. Expanding on my post, I've used the approach to do demo walls that show up Red in LO and with dashed lines as shown. These are tied to the model no need to update/explode/trace over. See my other post for more info.

                                            Cheers -

                                            Kyle


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