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    • jeff hammondJ 離線
      jeff hammond
      最後由 編輯

      [pointless_post]

      ... that you just can't seem to get right in a model??

      I've tried this thing 4 times now.. I think I'm going to try it with clay..

      [/pointless_post]

      dotdotdot

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      • gillesG 離線
        gilles
        最後由 編輯

        Why not give this one a try?

        http://http://www.pixologic.com/sculptris/features/

        " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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        • D 離線
          d12dozr
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          @unknownuser said:

          .. I think I'm going to try it with clay..

          That's actually a great idea. I just finished a project for a client who made a model out of clay for me to work from for the Sketchup model. He got the clay model as close as he could, then took Top, Side, Front, and Back photos. He took those photos into Photoshop, tweaked them til they were perfect, added dims and specs, and I used those as the blueprints for modeling.

          The final model was 3D printed, and the client was super happy how close it was to his concept. I bet that process halved the cost of the project for him, especially because there was hardly a straight line in the model so conventional plans were hard to make.

          ...a little different situation than yours, but hey, it might help.

          3D Printing with SketchUp Book
          http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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          • pilouP 離線
            pilou
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            The only thing to think with this crazzy free Sculptris, is make all the symmetric before
            then no symmetric after! 🤓
            By Barry Croucher

            http://www.pixologic.com/sculptris/img/img01.jpg

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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            • jeff hammondJ 離線
              jeff hammond
              最後由 編輯

              im not sure sculptris and the like will help me in this situation..

              I guess the shape could be considered organic but not like a body..

              it has to have a consistent thickness and be measurable/build-able. (ie-- drawn in sketchup or rhino)

              clay should be able to help me out.. plus it seems like it might be fun to mess around with 😉

              dotdotdot

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              • brookefoxB 離線
                brookefox
                最後由 編輯

                Give us something more to work with,

                a snapshot of your mind-image,

                carefully cropped.

                ~ Brooke

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                • Dave RD 離線
                  Dave R
                  最後由 編輯

                  How about if you draw it in sketchUp so we can see it? Maybe someone will be able to help you draw it. 😄

                  Etaoin Shrdlu

                  %

                  (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

                  G28 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0

                  M30

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                  • D 離線
                    d12dozr
                    最後由 編輯

                    Here's the clay my client used: Crayola Model Magic. It was nicer than modeling clay - lighter and cleaner. He says:

                    @unknownuser said:

                    I would stay away from the Model Magic Fusion. Some of the speckles are too big and nasty. Especially stay away from the Model Magic Fusion Black.

                    3D Printing with SketchUp Book
                    http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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                    • soloS 離線
                      solo
                      最後由 編輯

                      Q: You ever have a shape in your head....?

                      A:
                      http://1morefilmblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/closeencounters1.jpg

                      Looks better made of mashed potatoes.

                      http://www.solos-art.com

                      If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                      • bmikeB 離線
                        bmike
                        最後由 編輯

                        this thread sucks without pics.
                        can you post your model or a sketch or something so we can comment on it?

                        oh wait, never mind.
                        what about an MRI scan?

                        😉

                        yeah, i often have shape things stuck in my head, doodled on a napkin, or whatever.
                        sometimes they are far better in my imagination.
                        sometimes far nicer when i work them out in 3d.

                        mike beganyi design + consulting llc

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                        • pilouP 離線
                          pilou
                          最後由 編輯

                          ? 💚

                          http://www.ladepeche.fr/content/photo/biz/2008/02/04/gilles-balmet-test-accrochage-ro_zoom.jpg

                          http://www.identifont.com/samples/delve-fonts/BlotTest.gif

                          Frenchy Pilou
                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                          My Little site :)

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                          • S 離線
                            Starling75
                            最後由 編輯

                            .. keep it simple 😉

                            "Initially, no definite geometry for the shells had been established, but, as work progressed, the shells were developed according to a spherical geometry and we suddenly had a common denominator, the same spherical surface to deal with, with a similar curvature throughout.
                            This was an elegant solution to a construction, which would otherwise have had to be done with a large amount of scaffolding and shuttering, both for the interior and exterior shape of the shells.
                            Now the shells could be sub-divided into ribs, which again could be divided into smaller elements, which could be cast within formwork representing the largest rib entity. Thus it was possible to pre-cast the concrete-shells in smaller pieces and assemble these pieces on location. ..."
                            Jorn Utzon

                            Link Preview Image
                            Page not found

                            favicon

                            Sydney Opera House (www.sydneyoperahouse.com)

                            https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-MWoj-Pfx3-8/T7vqLdLbCyI/AAAAAAAAE1U/Tj18-TamWgQ/s585/UTZON.jpg

                            http://www.starlingarch.cz

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                            • jeff hammondJ 離線
                              jeff hammond
                              最後由 編輯

                              yeah starling.. something more along those lines (not blobby etc)

                              funny you posted that because my shape is spiral as well..
                              actually 2 of them interacting.

                              dotdotdot

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                              • gillesG 離線
                                gilles
                                最後由 編輯

                                Tell us more, we want to know! 🎉

                                " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                • jeff hammondJ 離線
                                  jeff hammond
                                  最後由 編輯

                                  @gilles said:

                                  Tell us more, we want to know! 🎉

                                  I sort of just figured it out on the train..
                                  the red line is a helix on its side.. the black is a line along the ground..
                                  then theres a surface created between the two..

                                  it gets a little more tech than that so it will be functional but I think this is the gist of it..
                                  I'll try modeling it a little later..

                                  http://db.tt/yLH2k6ZH

                                  edit.. so maybe the Dropbox link doesn't embed.. try:
                                  http://db.tt/yLH2k6ZH

                                  dotdotdot

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                                  • pilouP 離線
                                    pilou
                                    最後由 編輯

                                    Here the image of the Jeff helix tricky project 😄
                                    Jeff_helix.jpg

                                    Without more info it's some difficult to see something 😄
                                    Maybe a start ? 😄

                                    http://www.monkeychoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/helice.jpg

                                    Frenchy Pilou
                                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                    My Little site :)

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                                    • Rich O BrienR 離線
                                      Rich O Brien Moderator
                                      最後由 編輯

                                      Is the helix projecting itself on the ground and this is rotated?

                                      Here's my 2 cents....
                                      Jeff_Weird_Drawing.skp

                                      It's like Being John Malkovich

                                      Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp 📖

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                                      • brookefoxB 離線
                                        brookefox
                                        最後由 編輯

                                        @starling75 said:

                                        .. keep it simple 😉

                                        "Initially, no definite geometry for the shells had been established, but, as work progressed, the shells were developed according to a spherical geometry and we suddenly had a common denominator, the same spherical surface to deal with, with a similar curvature throughout.
                                        This was an elegant solution to a construction...
                                        Jorn Utzon

                                        https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-MWoj-Pfx3-8/T7vqLdLbCyI/AAAAAAAAE1U/Tj18-TamWgQ/s585/UTZON.jpg

                                        That sounds really nice, but is fairly typical isn't it, as a goal and a practice? Consistent geometry, prefab. ... He's kind of over-blowing it a bit, but certainly a good sell and a wonderful image.

                                        Nice link and read. Thanks.

                                        ~ Brooke

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                                        • jeff hammondJ 離線
                                          jeff hammond
                                          最後由 編輯

                                          @rich o brien said:

                                          Is the helix projecting itself on the ground and this is rotated?

                                          Here's my 2 cents....
                                          [attachment=0:3ij5gepn]<!-- ia0 -->Jeff_Weird_Drawing.skp<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:3ij5gepn]

                                          It's like Being John Malkovich

                                          screenshot or SU for iPhone please..
                                          whichever is easiest 😉

                                          dotdotdot

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                                          • Rich O BrienR 離線
                                            Rich O Brien Moderator
                                            最後由 編輯

                                            Jeffrey_Hammond.png

                                            Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp 📖

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