You ever have a shape in your head...
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The only thing to think with this crazzy free Sculptris, is make all the symmetric before
then no symmetric after!
By Barry Croucher -
im not sure sculptris and the like will help me in this situation..
I guess the shape could be considered organic but not like a body..
it has to have a consistent thickness and be measurable/build-able. (ie-- drawn in sketchup or rhino)
clay should be able to help me out.. plus it seems like it might be fun to mess around with
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Give us something more to work with,
a snapshot of your mind-image,
carefully cropped.
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How about if you draw it in sketchUp so we can see it? Maybe someone will be able to help you draw it.
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Here's the clay my client used: Crayola Model Magic. It was nicer than modeling clay - lighter and cleaner. He says:
@unknownuser said:
I would stay away from the Model Magic Fusion. Some of the speckles are too big and nasty. Especially stay away from the Model Magic Fusion Black.
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Q: You ever have a shape in your head....?
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Looks better made of mashed potatoes.
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this thread sucks without pics.
can you post your model or a sketch or something so we can comment on it?oh wait, never mind.
what about an MRI scan?yeah, i often have shape things stuck in my head, doodled on a napkin, or whatever.
sometimes they are far better in my imagination.
sometimes far nicer when i work them out in 3d. -
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.. keep it simple
"Initially, no definite geometry for the shells had been established, but, as work progressed, the shells were developed according to a spherical geometry and we suddenly had a common denominator, the same spherical surface to deal with, with a similar curvature throughout.
This was an elegant solution to a construction, which would otherwise have had to be done with a large amount of scaffolding and shuttering, both for the interior and exterior shape of the shells.
Now the shells could be sub-divided into ribs, which again could be divided into smaller elements, which could be cast within formwork representing the largest rib entity. Thus it was possible to pre-cast the concrete-shells in smaller pieces and assemble these pieces on location. ..." Jorn Utzon -
yeah starling.. something more along those lines (not blobby etc)
funny you posted that because my shape is spiral as well..
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Tell us more, we want to know!
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@gilles said:
Tell us more, we want to know!
I sort of just figured it out on the train..
the red line is a helix on its side.. the black is a line along the ground..
then theres a surface created between the two..it gets a little more tech than that so it will be functional but I think this is the gist of it..
I'll try modeling it a little later..edit.. so maybe the Dropbox link doesn't embed.. try:
http://db.tt/yLH2k6ZH -
Here the image of the Jeff helix tricky project
Without more info it's some difficult to see something
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Is the helix projecting itself on the ground and this is rotated?
Here's my 2 cents....
Jeff_Weird_Drawing.skpIt's like Being John Malkovich
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@starling75 said:
.. keep it simple
"Initially, no definite geometry for the shells had been established, but, as work progressed, the shells were developed according to a spherical geometry and we suddenly had a common denominator, the same spherical surface to deal with, with a similar curvature throughout.
This was an elegant solution to a construction... Jorn UtzonThat sounds really nice, but is fairly typical isn't it, as a goal and a practice? Consistent geometry, prefab. ... He's kind of over-blowing it a bit, but certainly a good sell and a wonderful image.
Nice link and read. Thanks.
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@rich o brien said:
Is the helix projecting itself on the ground and this is rotated?
Here's my 2 cents....
[attachment=0:3ij5gepn]<!-- ia0 -->Jeff_Weird_Drawing.skp<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:3ij5gepn]It's like Being John Malkovich
screenshot or SU for iPhone please..
whichever is easiest -
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I also often have similar shapes in my head, Rich, but my wife keeps slapping me at the back of my head when I do.
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@rich o brien said:
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hmm.. maybe that's not it
actually. I think it is but your version has the projected helix rotated too much.fwiw, the actual shape i need is to be cut out of the surface.. much in the same way the opera house was cut from a sphere.. I just have to figure out some logic behind the main shape so I can figure out how to build this..
fwiw2.. I haven't actually been commissioned to build this thing.. if I can make the model and it ends up being as cool as the original momentofinspiration, then I'm gonna try to sell it.
edit- fwiw3.. the red/black sketched image pilou posted is the top view.. looking at it with that in mind, you'll see the twist I'm (i think) going for..
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I rotated it 90 because your brainwaves don't stretch across the Atlantic...
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