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    • D Offline
      driven
      last edited by

      not just Lion, same on 10.5.8

      I thought something was odd lately.

      I tried it with no plugins, same [lack of] result.

      john

      learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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      • jeff hammondJ Offline
        jeff hammond
        last edited by

        dunno.. i can't get that to happen on my setup (lion with su M2).. everything is working good for me.

        not even sure where to begin troubleshooting this?

        i guess for starters, i'll post my blank template to see if it's still happening on your computers with my trouble-free template??

        blank.skp

        dotdotdot

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        • wind-borneW Offline
          wind-borne
          last edited by

          Thanks for taking a look, fellow Macnuts

          same result, click on far rectangle, highlights close one, also doesn't break face

          "To read between the lines was easier than to follow the text."OSX 10.11.6

          %(#BF80BF)[SU 8 pro

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          • thomthomT Offline
            thomthom
            last edited by

            Can you open the Ruby Console and enter this command?

            Sketchup.break_edges?

            Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              Please ensure that any .rb files in the Tools folder are not duplicated in the Plugins folder.
              Remove any from Plugins that are. The Tools ones are installed with Sketchup, some ill-advised 'collections' of scripts misplace old copies of some base-level files in Plugins.

              The Sketchup.break_edges? typed into the Ruby Console tells us if your Sketchup is set to auto-break crossing edges - the default is true.
              You can toggle it on/off using
              Sketchup.break_edges=true
              and
              Sketchup.break_edges=false

              Which exact version of v8 are you using v8M2 does [seemingly] fix some issues for Lion users...

              TIG

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              • wind-borneW Offline
                wind-borne
                last edited by

                Thanks thomthom and TIG

                Read false, will it stay true now that i changed in console?
                Troubling me since i installed 8 M2.

                "To read between the lines was easier than to follow the text."OSX 10.11.6

                %(#BF80BF)[SU 8 pro

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                • TIGT Offline
                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by

                  Try changing it manually and see what it is next time you startup Sketchup...
                  It just might be fixed !
                  You might have a script that's resetting it to 'false' at start up.
                  Although I don't know of one.
                  If you do a search through the files in Plugins and subfolders for the text Sketchup.break_edges it might reveal a culprit [unless of course it's compiled]...
                  OR you Sketchup is foobar...

                  TIG

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                  • wind-borneW Offline
                    wind-borne
                    last edited by

                    i did try a restarting SU a couple times after changing and so far so gooooood πŸŽ‰

                    "To read between the lines was easier than to follow the text."OSX 10.11.6

                    %(#BF80BF)[SU 8 pro

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                    • D Offline
                      driven
                      last edited by

                      Hi just got back in and ran the suggestions,

                      I'm on 10.5.8 and V8 Pro M2

                      Sketchup.break_edges? with all plugins turned ON returned false

                      Sketchup.break_edges? with all .rb plugins turned ON and all .rbs plugins OFF returned false

                      Sketchup.break_edges? with ALL plugins turned OFF returned false

                      ran Sketchup.break_edges=true in Ruby Console

                      after restart...

                      with ALL plugins turned OFF Sketchup.break_edges? returns true

                      with ALL plugins turned ON Sketchup.break_edges? returns true

                      ran a few plugins that break or restore edges SU still returns true.

                      I greped my plugins folder and edges.rb [by TT] uses
                      break_edge = Sketchup.break_edges? Sketchup.break_edges = false and then
                      # Restore the break_edges setting Sketchup.break_edges = break_edge return temp_edges.size

                      is that the same as saying
                      Sketchup.break_edges = true???

                      I was using EdgeTools recently, but didn't notice a change afterwards, it was the OP that made me think about a few oddities, very recently...

                      Everything seems to be OK, I'll keep an eye out for it failing again.

                      cheers TIG and Thomas.

                      learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by

                        TT's tool does temporarily reset the edge-splitting to 'false'... BUT it is failsafe-trapped to 'ensure' it's set back as it was when the tool started off [even on a crash]... so it should never mess with your settings...
                        This is weird ?

                        TIG

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                        • D Offline
                          driven
                          last edited by

                          It is possible I had a hang , caused by another operation, the last time I used EdgeTools.

                          Could that effect the reset?

                          john

                          learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                          • TIGT Offline
                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by

                            It might do... πŸ˜•
                            You [we] need to ask TT... as I can see no reason to reset it at all, because API-made-edges never break whatever the main Sketchup setting ? So changing it back and forth seems to do nothing anyway πŸ˜•

                            TIG

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                            • thomthomT Offline
                              thomthom
                              last edited by

                              hmm... thought the fail catching should be safe. But I might have to look into this. If TIG is right and the setting only affect the native tools and not Ruby API made edges then is is redundant...

                              Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                              • D Offline
                                driven
                                last edited by

                                cheer TT,

                                since I did the reset I've had a couple of crashes and it's still returning 'true' at the moment.

                                so it maybe something else...

                                john

                                learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                • wind-borneW Offline
                                  wind-borne
                                  last edited by

                                  @driven said:

                                  I was using EdgeTools recently, but didn't notice a change afterwards, it was the OP that made me think about a few oddities, very recently...

                                  Close Gaps of Edge Tools breaks SU setting on my Mac if tolerance setting doesn't allow ends to meet.

                                  Thanks for the help all, good learning experience now that I know the way out.


                                  Ruby Console.png

                                  "To read between the lines was easier than to follow the text."OSX 10.11.6

                                  %(#BF80BF)[SU 8 pro

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                                  • D Offline
                                    driven
                                    last edited by

                                    hi wind-borne,

                                    I was doing something similar then running other scripts that caused hangs... I need try those scripts now... they might work after all

                                    a question, does it stay false after a restart when induced?

                                    john

                                    learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                    • wind-borneW Offline
                                      wind-borne
                                      last edited by

                                      @driven said:

                                      hi wind-borne,

                                      a question, does it stay false after a restart when induced?

                                      john

                                      yes, restarting SU or computer has no effect but =true works like a charm πŸ’­

                                      "To read between the lines was easier than to follow the text."OSX 10.11.6

                                      %(#BF80BF)[SU 8 pro

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                                      • thomthomT Offline
                                        thomthom
                                        last edited by

                                        hm... I cannot see why this should be happening at all. But I'm inclined to just remove the break_edges references all together.

                                        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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