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    • mitcorbM Offline
      mitcorb
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      Elementary question:
      What is the difference between a ring and a loop? I couldn't seem to figure out the images, or why one is called a ring and one is called a loop.

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      • thomthomT Offline
        thomthom
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        @mitcorb said:

        Elementary question:
        What is the difference between a ring and a loop? I couldn't seem to figure out the images, or why one is called a ring and one is called a loop.

        Ring selects the next opposite edge in the connected quadfaces.
        Loop selects the next connected edge at each vertex with a valence of 4 and does not share a face with previous face.

        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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        • ken28875K Offline
          ken28875
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          You're a genius, Thomas!

          Thank you so much. πŸ‘ πŸ‘

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          • thomthomT Offline
            thomthom
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            @daniel s said:

            Thank you Thomas!!!

            A question: Is there a way to force the vertices of the quad to be coplanar?
            If a quad consist of two triangles rotate this two triangles until they lay on the same plane and then delete the shared edge. Is that possible?

            Daniel S

            I added a function that projects the selected faces ( any face ) to a best fit plane. ( Best fit plane is based on the selection ). It also ensures that quads connected to the selection are triangulated so they don't break due to SketchUp's AutoFold feature.
            Then I added a separate Remove Triangulation function.

            Both will be present in the next release. (Among other updates/changes)

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              Daniel S
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              @thomthom said:

              I added a function that projects the selected faces ( any face ) to a best fit plane. ( Best fit plane is based on the selection ). It also ensures that quads connected to the selection are triangulated so they don't break due to SketchUp's AutoFold feature.
              Then I added a separate Remove Triangulation function.

              Both will be present in the next release. (Among other updates/changes)

              What happens if the selection is all the model? Will work? I attach a quick example because is difficult for my to explain it in english.

              If I select all the model, the plugin will convert the faces into coplanar quads and delete the triangulations? In the attached model if you turn on the hidden geometry view you will see the triangulation. If you try to delete the lines you will delete the faces too because is not coplanar. If you make a coplanar face it will disort the connected faces. Is there a solution for this?

              Daniel S


              ejemplo.skp

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              • thomthomT Offline
                thomthom
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                @daniel s said:

                What happens if the selection is all the model?

                All the faces selected will be coplanar to the same plane.

                @daniel s said:

                If you make a coplanar face it will disort the connected faces. Is there a solution for this?

                No - it can't make a non-planar quad planar without affecting the connected quads.

                If you try to model a mesh by forcing all quads to be planar you'll be setting your self up for a lot of trouble because it puts too many constraints on the geometry.

                Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                  Daniel S
                  last edited by

                  Thank you for your answer Thomas.
                  I thought that maybe exists a magic method but is not the case.

                  Thank you again,
                  Daniel S

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                  • thomthomT Offline
                    thomthom
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                    No magic I'm afraid. Just think of the geometric constraints - making one non-planar quad planar requires that you move its vertices and that means that it will affect all the geometry connected to the vertices.

                    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                      Daniel S
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                      @thomthom said:

                      No magic I'm afraid. Just think of the geometric constraints - making one non-planar quad planar requires that you move its vertices and that means that it will affect all the geometry connected to the vertices.

                      Yes, of course will affect the geometry connected to that face. I was asking if there was a method where can I make all quads coplanar automatically and connected. With every quad with a different normal. This normal will be an average normal of the two triangles that makes the original non-planar quad.
                      Perhaps already exists a solution for converting all non-planar to coplanar quads creating more coplanar quads for connecting the geometry. Of course changing the original shape of the model as little as possible. Only a doubt that I always had.

                      Daniel S

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                      • thomthomT Offline
                        thomthom
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                        I don't know if it is at all possible. But it won't be anything I'll be trying in the near future. So many other things that needs to be done first.
                        And the purpose of this plugin was to provide a way to treat triangulated quads as one unit...

                        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                        • thomthomT Offline
                          thomthom
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                          Version 0.2.0b

                          • Select Region to Loop
                          • Remove Triangualtion
                          • Make Planar
                          • Context Menu
                          • Smooth / Unsmooth Quads
                          • Blender Quads to SketchUp Quads

                          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                          • P Offline
                            Panga
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                            Thanks thomthom for this plugin ! πŸ‘

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                            • B Offline
                              Ben Ritter
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                              Thank you Thomthom, very much.

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                              • pep75P Offline
                                pep75
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                                HOLY

                                Brilliant!!
                                Thanks!

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                                  notareal
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                                  Wow!

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                                  • thomthomT Offline
                                    thomthom
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                                    @earthmover said:

                                    Any plans on adding a Ring Connect option as a way to add additional loops?

                                    I just felt like teasing you with a screenshot of a new tool I've been working on...

                                    ConnectEdgesWIP.png

                                    πŸ˜‰

                                    ( What I'd love to do later on to improve it is to adapt the splits to the geometry around them. )

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                                      babman91
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                                      • thomthomT Offline
                                        thomthom
                                        last edited by

                                        @earthmover said:

                                        Any plans on adding a Ring Connect option as a way to add additional loops?

                                        I finally got it working! Just need to finish the UI. πŸ˜„ πŸ˜„
                                        I hope to release 0.3 this week. πŸ˜‰

                                        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                                        • thomthomT Offline
                                          thomthom
                                          last edited by

                                          Version 0.3.0

                                          • Connect Edges
                                          • Insert Loops
                                          • Remove Loops
                                          • Flip Edges

                                          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                                            EarthMover
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                                            πŸ‘ πŸ‘ Greatness achieved my friend! Thanks for all you do in the name of progress!

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