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    • erikBE Offline
      erikB
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      Shadow bug fixed. Very nice update!
      Well done to the google developpers.
      erikB

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        cadmunkey
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        On both installs I did over the weekend (1 desktop, 1 laptop) Windows popped up a message saying that sketchup did not install properly and had applied compatibility settings to it. Anyone else get this? I'm not sure how to check what settings have been applied just in case this has an impact SUs performance. I dont want to run any program under any kind of emulation mode.
        Both machines have 64bit Win7 installed. Any ideas?

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        • jbacusJ Offline
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          @cadmunkey said:

          On both installs I did over the weekend (1 desktop, 1 laptop) Windows popped up a message saying that sketchup did not install properly and had applied compatibility settings to it. Anyone else get this? I'm not sure how to check what settings have been applied just in case this has an impact SUs performance. I dont want to run any program under any kind of emulation mode.
          Both machines have 64bit Win7 installed. Any ideas?

          Could you post a screenshot of the message? Probably just means that you're running SketchUp in 32bit mode on your 64bit system. There's no harm in that (no impact on performance). Though I'm sure someone will jump in here to ask when we're going to release that 64bit version of SketchUp so you don't see this message on install 😉

          john
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          • thomthomT Offline
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            @jbacus said:

            @cadmunkey said:

            On both installs I did over the weekend (1 desktop, 1 laptop) Windows popped up a message saying that sketchup did not install properly and had applied compatibility settings to it. Anyone else get this? I'm not sure how to check what settings have been applied just in case this has an impact SUs performance. I dont want to run any program under any kind of emulation mode.
            Both machines have 64bit Win7 installed. Any ideas?

            Could you post a screenshot of the message? Probably just means that you're running SketchUp in 32bit mode on your 64bit system. There's no harm in that (no impact on performance). Though I'm sure someone will jump in here to ask when we're going to release that 64bit version of SketchUp so you don't see this message on install 😉
            .

            I run 64bit Win7 - didn't get such message...

            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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            • spenceS Offline
              spence
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              Same here, running Win. 7 64bit and installed just fine. Also this is an awesome update, I'am very stoked about the shadow bug fix, then I run across the fix that allows you to choose a different codec WhoooooHooo . From the very beginning this has bugged me to death because I could get it to use DivX on occasion if I were to restart SU but even then would hardly ever work. So, I just installed DivX and gave it a whirl, awesome, it worked so slick and the export was very fast. It looked super good.

              If anyone would like to try, check out the difference between codecs like the default (I thinks it's Sorenson) and DivX. DivX is so much smoother, no where near as much jitter. http://www.divx.com/DivX

              Nice Job Google SketchUp!!!!

              Spence

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              • Al HartA Offline
                Al Hart
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                @thomthom said:

                Yes - Under 64bit Windows, SU can now address up to 4GB RAM. (I have tried it with a huge render.) 😄

                Do we have to do anything to XP (e.g. the /3GB tweak) and/or 32-bit Windows 7 and/or 64 bit Windows to use LargeAddressAware?

                Do we have to do anything to SketchUp?

                Al Hart

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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
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                  @al hart said:

                  @thomthom said:

                  Yes - Under 64bit Windows, SU can now address up to 4GB RAM. (I have tried it with a huge render.) 😄

                  Do we have to do anything to XP (e.g. the /3GB tweak) and/or 32-bit Windows 7 and/or 64 bit Windows to use LargeAddressAware?

                  Do we have to do anything to SketchUp?

                  You don't do anything, but if you have a 64bit OS, SketchUp can address more than 2GB of memory, up til 4GB. Just make sure you have a 64bit OS and at least 4GB RAM.

                  Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                    cadmunkey
                    last edited by

                    Strange you guys didnt get the same message. This happened on 2 completely different machines. 1 a custom built desktop and the other on a Sony Vaio laptop. I will try reinstall later and see if I get the same message and I'll post a screenshot.
                    Thanks for your replies.

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                      cadmunkey
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                      Just reinstalled but the message didnt appear. Obviously the info is still in the registry so doesnt need to do it again. I'll check out compatibility settings in the Microsoft forums to see what I need to do to take them off.

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                      • Al HartA Offline
                        Al Hart
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                        It used to be in XP that you had to change the OS to give you 3GB rather than 1.8GB of 32-bit space. I presume that fix would still help with SketchUp.

                        The other half of my question was whether you still had to do something to enable LargeAddressAware in 32 bit Windows 7?

                        A;

                        @thomthom said:

                        @al hart said:

                        @thomthom said:

                        Yes - Under 64bit Windows, SU can now address up to 4GB RAM. (I have tried it with a huge render.) 😄

                        Do we have to do anything to XP (e.g. the /3GB tweak) and/or 32-bit Windows 7 and/or 64 bit Windows to use LargeAddressAware?

                        Do we have to do anything to SketchUp?

                        You don't do anything, but if you have a 64bit OS, SketchUp can address more than 2GB of memory, up til 4GB. Just make sure you have a 64bit OS and at least 4GB RAM.

                        Al Hart

                        http:wiki.renderplus.comimageseefRender_plus_colored30x30%29.PNG
                        IRender nXt from Render Plus

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                        • thomthomT Offline
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                          @al hart said:

                          The other half of my question was whether you still had to do something to enable LargeAddressAware in 32 bit Windows 7?

                          No - LAA is not possible on 32bit Windows. You do have the 3G which, which gives applications 3GB RAM and the system 1GB (As oppose to the default 2GB/2GB). That also required you to have 4GB to make use of it. I found the 3G switch to make the system a bit flimsy and unstable.

                          Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                          • GaieusG Offline
                            Gaieus
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                            I also have the 3Gb switch "installed" in my boot.ini file (but I also kept the normal boot, too). I generally do not boot that way but I will make some tests if it helps with RAM-hungry operations in SU (say exporting large images with AA on).

                            Gai...

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                            • Al HartA Offline
                              Al Hart
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                              Thanks Gai - it would be nice to see if LAA let SketchUp grow larger for XP users who have 3GB or 4GB RAM and could make use of it.

                              Al Hart

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                              • GaieusG Offline
                                Gaieus
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                                Al, iRender has been LAA for a while irrespective of SU running behind it, hasn't it? (Or is there a 64 bit version? I can't remember...)

                                Gai...

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                                • Al HartA Offline
                                  Al Hart
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                                  When we render, we jump out of the SketchUp process and run a stand alone .EXE, and we are able to have a 64-bit version. However, when extracting the model from SketchUp we are in the SketchUp process - running ruby code and DLLs which share the SketchUp process space. We have to be careful not to use to much RAM, because some of our clients send us models which can just barely fit in SketchUp even without loading our stuff and using it.

                                  I think the answer to one question I am asking is "Is there something 32-bit XP users can do do let SketchUp have more address space" A by product of the answer will be that Render Plus Apps will run better on top of SketchUp as well.

                                  The other question I am asking is "Do you have to do something to the operating to take advantage of LargeAddressAware? For all SketchUp users, that would be nice to know.

                                  @gaieus said:

                                  Al, iRender has been LAA for a while irrespective of SU running behind it, hasn't it? (Or is there a 64 bit version? I can't remember...)

                                  Al Hart

                                  http:wiki.renderplus.comimageseefRender_plus_colored30x30%29.PNG
                                  IRender nXt from Render Plus

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                                  • GaieusG Offline
                                    Gaieus
                                    last edited by

                                    Ah, OK, thanks, I understand the difference now. As I said, I am (also) planning to test this on my 32 bit OS (I have some pretty heavy models with over a million polys and such - even without entourage)

                                    Gai...

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                                    • Bob JamesB Offline
                                      Bob James
                                      last edited by

                                      @spence said:

                                      So, I just installed DivX and gave it a whirl, awesome, it worked so slick and the export was very fast. It looked super good.
                                      If anyone would like to try, check out the difference between codecs like the default (I thinks it's Sorenson) and DivX. DivX is so much smoother, no where near as much jitter. http://www.divx.com/DivX

                                      Which DivX codec: MEV, H264, AAC, AVI ?

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                                      • Al HartA Offline
                                        Al Hart
                                        last edited by

                                        Regarding using LargeAddressAware on 32 bit machines.

                                        I found out how to do this, See: LargeAddressAware Thread

                                        Al Hart

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                                        IRender nXt from Render Plus

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                                        • StinkieS Offline
                                          Stinkie
                                          last edited by

                                          Mmm ... LAA + Vray ... Exporting large images fixed ... Looks like a useful update.

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                                          • spenceS Offline
                                            spence
                                            last edited by

                                            @bob james said:

                                            @spence said:

                                            So, I just installed DivX and gave it a whirl, awesome, it worked so slick and the export was very fast. It looked super good.
                                            If anyone would like to try, check out the difference between codecs like the default (I thinks it's Sorenson) and DivX. DivX is so much smoother, no where near as much jitter. http://www.divx.com/DivX

                                            Which DivX codec: MEV, H264, AAC, AVI ?

                                            Bob,

                                            Not entirely sure. I just downloaded the free DivX (Not the Pro) and installed the Codec Pack 1.0. I set it to export an .AVI, but I'm not sure which codec it uses. I don't believe I'm able to change what codec because I'm not using the Pro version. I hope that answers your question.

                                            Spence

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