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    • hellnbakH Offline
      hellnbak
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      I've been going nuts trying to figure out this "open gl" thing. Could somebody take a look at my rally wheel and, if you can figure out how to get rid of the ugly stuff around the outer edges of the rim when you view it at a distance, could you please explain how you did it? I really need to learn this.

      Also, was having big problems with my model after I replaced the old wheels with my new ones, whenever I would move it, rotate it, even consider the possibility of someday thinking about maybe doing anything to it all the textures and a few other things would disappear until I stopped what I was doing. Finally figured it out - even tho the lugnuts accounted for about 6kb in file size, they added a whopping 82,125 edges to the model!! Got rid of them and the problem went away. One more lesson learned, I suspect a very valuable one - I was only concentrating on getting my file size down, paid no attention whatsoever to my edge count. Didn't realize how important it was till now. God, I really can identify with the poor Scarecrow's plight - I need a brain!


      Radial TA BF Goodrich j minus lug nuts.skp

      "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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      • thomthomT Offline
        thomthom
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        @hellnbak said:

        I've been going nuts trying to figure out this "open gl" thing. Could somebody take a look at my rally wheel and, if you can figure out how to get rid of the ugly stuff around the outer edges of the rim when you view it at a distance,

        What ugly stuff? Got a screenshot?

        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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        • hellnbakH Offline
          hellnbak
          last edited by

          @thomthom said:

          What ugly stuff? Got a screenshot?

          I posted a screenshot at the beginning of this thread, but it's difficult to get a good photo of it.

          "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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          • thomthomT Offline
            thomthom
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            The edge?
            You want to hide the edge?

            Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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            • Rich O BrienR Offline
              Rich O Brien Moderator
              last edited by

              Looks like your Rim is the issue...

              Radial TA BF Goodrich j minus lug nuts.skp

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              • hellnbakH Offline
                hellnbak
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                @thomthom said:

                The edge?
                You want to hide the edge?

                All I want to do is prevent the ugliness around the outer edge of the rim when it's viewed from any distance, at an angle. As I explained in my original post, it looks like it's got some sort of herringbone pattern, like you see on tv when somebody is wearing a suit with the wrong pattern on it, it seems to "shimmer". Geez, it's so difficult to explain, like trying to describe a smell, or a color. If you look at the model you can surely see what I'm referring to.

                "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                • hellnbakH Offline
                  hellnbak
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                  @unknownuser said:

                  Looks like your Rim is the issue...

                  I've tried that, I've deleted the entire surface you're referring to, still there.


                  Radial TA BF Goodrich j minus lug nuts a.skp

                  "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                  • thomthomT Offline
                    thomthom
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                    The edge you point at in this image?
                    http://forums.sketchucation.com/download/file.php?id=58468

                    The appearance of that will depend on your graphic card and how well it anti-alias. If you will be seeing the rim from a distance the edge will be more distinct as the edge is always 1px thick regardless of your zoom level.

                    If you have an object with lots of details that will be presented in a small size on screen you're best of hiding more edges.
                    Edge Hidden

                    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
                      last edited by

                      Also - when you Export 2d it will look differently from what you see in screen - at least in terms of anti-aliasing.

                      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                      • jeff hammondJ Offline
                        jeff hammond
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                        @hellnbak said:

                        @unknownuser said:

                        Looks like your Rim is the issue...

                        I've tried that, I've deleted the entire surface you're referring to, still there.

                        the drawing is pretty sloppy. you have lines next to lines that should in fact be one line etc which is compounding the effects you're seeing.

                        that aside, you're asking to see a curved line made out of squares (pixels of your monitor).. something's got to give somewhere.. it's not going to happen. sorry.
                        some antialiasing settings can sort of reduce the effect but it's still going to be present no matter what you do or what software you're using.

                        dotdotdot

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                        • Rich O BrienR Offline
                          Rich O Brien Moderator
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                          Ok,

                          if you dissect the outer rim you'll see it's made of components. Good practice... πŸ‘

                          if you analyze those components you'll see they don't meet, but overlap. Bad practice... πŸ‘Ž

                          remember earlier i said face on face = z-fighting

                          These little errors occur everywhere and when you add them up you get visual trickery. Kinda Jeff's cool avatar

                          @jeff

                          you'll notice a new member to the bling club soon.... πŸ˜‰

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                          • hellnbakH Offline
                            hellnbak
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                            @thomthom said:

                            If you have an object with lots of details that will be presented in a small size on screen you're best of hiding more edges.

                            It will not be viewed at one particular distance, it's just that when it's viewed at a greater distance the problem occurs. As far as hiding the edges, for me that's not an option. The edges in this particular model play a big role in it's appearance, as I indicated when I posted my original question, wanting to know how to view more edges. When you hide all the edges, on this or any other SU model, it just looks so bland, so 2 dimensional. At least to me it does.

                            "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                            • jeff hammondJ Offline
                              jeff hammond
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                              @unknownuser said:

                              you'll notice a new member to the bling club soon.... πŸ˜‰

                              sweet!

                              dotdotdot

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                              • hellnbakH Offline
                                hellnbak
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                                Probably none of my business, but what's a "bling club"?

                                "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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