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    • D Offline
      driven
      last edited by

      @thomthom said:

      I avoided using material as I didn't want to clutter people's models.
      fair point, but what about using a 'style' set,that's purged when your done?

      @thomthom said:

      Section planes....(edit) I don't think one can even activate them via Ruby. ๐Ÿ˜ž
      it seems to me that the api lets you, but I'm no coder...

      @thomthom said:

      It should be highlighting the edges though, while the tool is active. you're not seeing that?
      sorry, it is highlighting the multi-face edges, it's the enclosed/internal (to volume) edges I was wondering about

      @thomthom said:

      (I want to make a UI for that.)
      I'm just airing ideas 'for that', I've tested/used all the pre-existing repair-aid scripts (TIG's,VW,CadSpan,etc.) and currently use bits from each, in a rather untidy workflow.

      we stop for Xmas next week and I'll try and organise my thoughts a bit better,

      I like what you've done with this so far...

      john

      learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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      • thomthomT Offline
        thomthom
        last edited by

        @driven said:

        it seems to me that the api lets you, but I'm no coder...

        The API only let you get and set the position of section planes. No way to add or activate them. ๐Ÿ˜ž

        @driven said:

        sorry, it is highlighting the multi-face edges, it's the enclosed/internal (to volume) edges I was wondering about

        Oh, detect geometry inside solids. hmm... Not quite sure how one would do that... It's a thinker...

        @driven said:

        fair point, but what about using a 'style' set,that's purged when your done?

        The problem is that one can't assign a style to just a small set of edges - it#s all or nothing.
        But, with a new UI one could possibly have a checkbox that would toggle whether the invalid geometry is marked with a material.

        Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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          GWD
          last edited by

          @driven said:

          @thomthom said:

          I avoided using material as I didn't want to clutter people's models.
          fair point, but what about using a 'style' set,that's purged when your done?

          @thomthom said:

          Section planes....(edit) I don't think one can even activate them via Ruby. ๐Ÿ˜ž
          it seems to me that the api lets you, but I'm no coder...

          @thomthom said:

          It should be highlighting the edges though, while the tool is active. you're not seeing that?
          sorry, it is highlighting the multi-face edges, it's the enclosed/internal (to volume) edges I was wondering about

          @thomthom said:

          (I want to make a UI for that.)
          I'm just airing ideas 'for that', I've tested/used all the pre-existing repair-aid scripts (TIG's,VW,CadSpan,etc.) and currently use bits from each, in a rather untidy workflow.

          we stop for Xmas next week and I'll try and organise my thoughts a bit better,

          I like what you've done with this so far...

          john

          John, did you already test my new fixSolid? http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=33471

          Guy

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            eliasandraos
            last edited by

            Lots of time saved. Thanks so much.

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            • jason_marantoJ Offline
              jason_maranto
              last edited by

              I just wanted to say this is the best plugin ever -- I find myself using some plugins every once in a while and a few very frequently, but this plugin instantly became something I used 20-30 times a session.

              Thank-you sooooo much for making this -- I didn't think I needed it but it has saved me dozens of hours already in just a few weeks... why they would include the solids tools in 8 without including this function I don't know but for me it is now an essential tool.

              Best,
              Jason.

              I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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              • thomthomT Offline
                thomthom
                last edited by

                ๐Ÿ˜„ cheers!

                As I've begun to use the Solid Tools in SU8 more and more I find myself relying on it more often. And I found that I need to allow it to work within the group, component one wants to fix. As going out of the group your fixing to inspect it is just too awkward.

                Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                • jgbJ Offline
                  jgb
                  last edited by

                  I've been using Solid Inspector for about 3 weeks now, and only a few days ago discovered the <tab> key, arrow key and <enter> functions. Never thought to look down. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                  I use it so much I have the "S" key as a shortcut. ๐Ÿ‘

                  But a most unintuitive aspect of SI is when it finds and highlights the problem(s). ๐Ÿ‘Ž

                  Generally you want to delete the offender entity(s).
                  The process is to toggle amongst the highlights to choose one, which is now indicated by a red circle. โ—
                  Press <Enter> to zoom in on it.
                  Place the white arrow cursor on the highlighted entity.
                  Right click and select "Edit group". If you click "erase" here, it will delete the whole group.
                  Keeping the cursor on the highlighted entity, Right Click and select "erase". That will delete the single cursor-ed entity only. Either 1 line or 1 face, but not the faces highlighted perimeter lines.
                  And that leaves you in a form of limbo. ๐ŸŽ‰
                  Now you have to select the "edit menu" and "close group" to get back into SI for the next problem.

                  Since 99.9% of the time you want to simply delete the offending entity, why not simply;
                  Place the cursor on it and just double click to delete the red highlighted entity.
                  Then you toggle to the next.

                  This obviates the wish for an auto-fix which is complex and where a simple deletion may not be the fix one needs to do.

                  One other thing; when SI encounters a true solid (no errors) please say so, maybe a green circle around the group/comp. But do come out of the white arrow select mode.


                  jgb

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                    Alencar
                    last edited by

                    Dear Thomthom

                    is amazing how a simple program can solve such a complex issue and recurrent.

                    this is brilliant

                    thank you, very much.

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                      jgb
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                      @alencar said:

                      Dear Thomthom

                      is amazing how a simple program can solve such a complex issue and recurrent.

                      this is brilliant

                      thank you, very much.

                      Believe me, Solid Inspector is not a "simple" program by a long shot. ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘

                      TT has displayed an ongoing expertise in solving problems in SU that should have been an intrinsic part of SU from the get-go.

                      Using SI as a prime example; SU's attempt at being a solid modeler is commendable, however, to allow the tiniest errant fragment to prevent a solid from "forming" and NOT TELLING YOU WHY is amateurish at the least. ๐Ÿ‘Š

                      TT gets an A++++ for that fix.


                      jgb

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                        Alencar
                        last edited by

                        dear Thomthom

                        when I said "simple" I wanted to say that it was an easy program

                        to use, no less important.

                        "simplicity is characteristic of that is good"

                        sorry if not properly expressed

                        (I can not praise what is done well)

                        your plugin is fantastic.

                        Thanks.

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                        • thomthomT Offline
                          thomthom
                          last edited by

                          @jgb said:

                          I've been using Solid Inspector for about 3 weeks now, and only a few days ago discovered the <tab> key, arrow key and <enter> functions. Never thought to look down. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                          I use it so much I have the "S" key as a shortcut. ๐Ÿ‘

                          But a most unintuitive aspect of SI is when it finds and highlights the problem(s). ๐Ÿ‘Ž

                          Generally you want to delete the offender entity(s).
                          The process is to toggle amongst the highlights to choose one, which is now indicated by a red circle. โ—
                          Press <Enter> to zoom in on it.
                          Place the white arrow cursor on the highlighted entity.
                          Right click and select "Edit group". If you click "erase" here, it will delete the whole group.
                          Keeping the cursor on the highlighted entity, Right Click and select "erase". That will delete the single cursor-ed entity only. Either 1 line or 1 face, but not the faces highlighted perimeter lines.
                          And that leaves you in a form of limbo. ๐ŸŽ‰
                          Now you have to select the "edit menu" and "close group" to get back into SI for the next problem.

                          Since 99.9% of the time you want to simply delete the offending entity, why not simply;
                          Place the cursor on it and just double click to delete the red highlighted entity.
                          Then you toggle to the next.

                          This obviates the wish for an auto-fix which is complex and where a simple deletion may not be the fix one needs to do.

                          One other thing; when SI encounters a true solid (no errors) please say so, maybe a green circle around the group/comp. But do come out of the white arrow select mode.

                          I have plans (desire) to make the inspector work inside the active group/component instead of outside. That would improve usability.

                          Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                          • jgbJ Offline
                            jgb
                            last edited by

                            Thomthom said "I have plans (desire) to......"

                            I know THAT feeling all too well. ๐Ÿ˜†


                            jgb

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                            • mariochaM Offline
                              mariocha
                              last edited by

                              @unknownuser said:

                              make the inspector work inside the active group/component instead of outside. That would improve usability.

                              That would sure be a great improvement
                              on an already so useful plugin! ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ (icon of your username)
                              Now youv'e made me eager .

                              %(#008000)[Mario C.
                              Every rule has exceptions, but some.]

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                              • majidM Offline
                                majid
                                last edited by

                                this was realllllly handy to me .... nowadays I was modeling a chair part , to be produced by plastic, and need to be a solid, and it was really handy.
                                thanx a bunch.

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                                  ericschimel
                                  last edited by

                                  Nice work Thomas! I am going to check this out. I really hate trying to find small holes in groups!

                                  -Eric
                                  http://plugin.sketchthis.net
                                  Sketchup Kitchen Design Plugin
                                  Custom Models

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                                    Kev_Ov
                                    last edited by

                                    Thank you so much!!!

                                    Leaks had been bugging me for days!

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                                      emartingr
                                      last edited by

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      Nice work Thomas! I am going to check this out. I really hate trying to find small holes in groups!

                                      Defects in solids are sometimes produced by carrying out SU boolean operations, and these are very difficult to find. SI is a most welcome tool. Thanks a lot!!

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                                        d12dozr
                                        last edited by

                                        Thomthom, I use this plugin ALL the time...how do I send you a cookie?

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                                          Dave R
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                                          Marcus. I'll send one with yours. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                                            thomthom
                                            last edited by

                                            Cookies!!! ๐Ÿ˜„

                                            Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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