[Plugin] TT_Lib²

hygicell · 10 Oct 2012, 12:03

you must be hungry by now,
so I have sent you a box of cookies (Belgian First Quality Pralines)
Frank

thomthom · 10 Oct 2012, 12:04

you must be hungry by now,
so I have sent you a box of cookies
Frank

That was mighty kind of you! Now let us hope we can pin down the source of your issue. I'll feel really bad if I cannot help.

Btw, are you going to Basecamp?

hygicell · 10 Oct 2012, 12:05

I will proceed along your instructions

hygicell · 10 Oct 2012, 12:07

@thomthom said:

Not all plugins can be enabled/disabled via the Extension list.

a suggestion for a plugin or for sketchup?
would make debugging fast and easy

thomthom · 10 Oct 2012, 12:09

@hygicell said:

@thomthom said:

Not all plugins can be enabled/disabled via the Extension list.

a suggestion for a plugin or for sketchup?
would make debugging fast and easy

I think Dana was working on a Plugin Manager... ...I'll poke him and query the status.

thomthom · 10 Oct 2012, 18:42

Whoa! After a remote session (thanks to Teamviewer) I found the culprit! It was organizer which doesn't just modify the menus etc, it even loads the files it iterates - causing Vertex Tools' loader.rb to be loaded before tt_vertex.rb - because it made the assumption that nothing other than tt_vertex.rb would be loading it.

hygicell · 10 Oct 2012, 19:03

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Dave R · 10 Oct 2012, 19:51

Organizer?

thomthom · 10 Oct 2012, 19:58

(www.smustard.com)

Dave R · 10 Oct 2012, 20:01

Ah. So that's not so good.

thomthom · 10 Oct 2012, 20:08

It does say in the description of Organizer that sub-folders in the plugins folder needs to be excluded (because it assumes all sub-folders otherwise belongs to Smustard... )

But I had no idea how that plugin worked. I was just somewhat aware it did something with the menus. So now I've been debugging, with my user who's also had to deal with this, for the last three days. I don't like the invasive behaviour of Organizer.

TIG · 10 Oct 2012, 21:28

Neither had I !

@unknownuser said:

There is also a mechanism for developers to easily exclude their subfolders so Organizer will not try to load the contents of those folders. This should result in a smoother experience for users, who won't have to contend with manually maintaining the excluded folders list in the SmustardOrganizerExcludeFolders.txt file.

To do this: in your subfolder, create an empty text file called "exclude.txt" - that's it!
I too don't like the way that 'other developers' [AKA most of us] are expected to avoid their sledgehammer.
There are many tools that have subfolders of other files that don't auto-load...
They never should be auto-loaded anyway !? Surely that must be up to loader-scripts or extension-loaders to decide... Why has RickW made it this way at all ?
Have you messaged him ??
Another candidate for the 'Quarantine Badge'

thomthom · 10 Oct 2012, 22:32

Yea - as it is now it by-passes the Extension mechanism of Plugins. Unless they exclude themselves. Which is really not something he should expect a developer to do. It shouldn't be an opt-out system. How on earth is a developer expected to know about the behaviour of another plugin like that?

I've not contacted him, no. I exhausted my computer time today debugging this.

thomthom · 10 Oct 2012, 22:35

I'm puzzled why he made the Plugins folderstructure into the hierarchy of the custom menus... o_O

jokewalker · 12 Oct 2012, 18:47

Hi All!

Sorry for posting this without first combing through the preceding pages. My anti-virus (Kaspersky) is going crazy over the tt_api.so file thinking it's malware. Anyone else encountering this? Didn't seem to bother anything up until just recently. Puzzling.....

Thoughts?! Thanks in advance!

thomthom · 12 Oct 2012, 21:06

Yes, there's been a few reports. Tell Kaspersky to leave the file alone. (And please also make a report to Kaspersky about the false negative. Some other users has already reported it, but maybe they bump up the priority if more people complain.)

hygicell · 13 Oct 2012, 08:47

maybe someone knows a way to disable the quarantine for one specific file inside Kapersky?
I didn't know the way to do that,
so took the radical decision to dump Kapersky
installed ZoneAlarm instead.

FatKid73 · 18 Dec 2012, 14:27

Hi All,
I'm fairly new to Sketchup, and am trying to install the Cleanup plugin - I have a current model that's massive and therefore causing problems in rendering plugins such as Lumenrt or Maxwell Render -
Could someone please walk me thru the install of the Cleanup plugin for Mac?
Any help would be appreciated - Thanks.

Dave R · 18 Dec 2012, 17:05

The subject has been covered repeatedly. I guess you could go through this thread and find it several times. Or you can look at the thread specifically on installing plugins.

thomthom · 18 Dec 2012, 17:12

And here's an link to an article that explains it in detail with links to helping utilities such a "Simple Plugin Installer": http://www.thomthom.net/thoughts/2012/01/installing-plugins-for-google-sketchup/