[Plugin] TT_Lib²

thomthom

Not all plugins can be enabled/disabled via the Extension list.

Not sure about that error. I'm unfamiliar with that is prefixed with "lss"... But this doesn't mean immediately there's a conflict with that. Maybe something it required was deactivated. This is why to be sure one need to do one by one - I'm afraid.

Just to be 100% sure I've understood correctly: Vertex Tools loads with no issues when it's installed by itself?

hygicell

you must be hungry by now,
so I have sent you a box of cookies (Belgian First Quality Pralines)
Frank

thomthom

@hygicell said:

you must be hungry by now,
so I have sent you a box of cookies
Frank

That was mighty kind of you! Now let us hope we can pin down the source of your issue. I'll feel really bad if I cannot help.

Btw, are you going to Basecamp?

hygicell

I will proceed along your instructions

hygicell

@thomthom said:

Not all plugins can be enabled/disabled via the Extension list.

a suggestion for a plugin or for sketchup?
would make debugging fast and easy

thomthom

@hygicell said:

@thomthom said:

Not all plugins can be enabled/disabled via the Extension list.

a suggestion for a plugin or for sketchup?
would make debugging fast and easy

I think Dana was working on a Plugin Manager... ...I'll poke him and query the status.

thomthom

Whoa! After a remote session (thanks to Teamviewer) I found the culprit! It was organizer which doesn't just modify the menus etc, it even loads the files it iterates - causing Vertex Tools' loader.rb to be loaded before tt_vertex.rb - because it made the assumption that nothing other than tt_vertex.rb would be loading it.

hygicell

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Dave R

Organizer?

thomthom

(www.smustard.com)

Dave R

Ah. So that's not so good.

thomthom

It does say in the description of Organizer that sub-folders in the plugins folder needs to be excluded (because it assumes all sub-folders otherwise belongs to Smustard... )

But I had no idea how that plugin worked. I was just somewhat aware it did something with the menus. So now I've been debugging, with my user who's also had to deal with this, for the last three days. I don't like the invasive behaviour of Organizer.

TIG

Neither had I !

@unknownuser said:

There is also a mechanism for developers to easily exclude their subfolders so Organizer will not try to load the contents of those folders. This should result in a smoother experience for users, who won't have to contend with manually maintaining the excluded folders list in the SmustardOrganizerExcludeFolders.txt file.

To do this: in your subfolder, create an empty text file called "exclude.txt" - that's it!
I too don't like the way that 'other developers' [AKA most of us] are expected to avoid their sledgehammer.
There are many tools that have subfolders of other files that don't auto-load...
They never should be auto-loaded anyway !? Surely that must be up to loader-scripts or extension-loaders to decide... Why has RickW made it this way at all ?
Have you messaged him ??
Another candidate for the 'Quarantine Badge'

thomthom

Yea - as it is now it by-passes the Extension mechanism of Plugins. Unless they exclude themselves. Which is really not something he should expect a developer to do. It shouldn't be an opt-out system. How on earth is a developer expected to know about the behaviour of another plugin like that?

I've not contacted him, no. I exhausted my computer time today debugging this.

thomthom

I'm puzzled why he made the Plugins folderstructure into the hierarchy of the custom menus... o_O

jokewalker

Hi All!

Sorry for posting this without first combing through the preceding pages. My anti-virus (Kaspersky) is going crazy over the tt_api.so file thinking it's malware. Anyone else encountering this? Didn't seem to bother anything up until just recently. Puzzling.....

Thoughts?! Thanks in advance!

thomthom

Yes, there's been a few reports. Tell Kaspersky to leave the file alone. (And please also make a report to Kaspersky about the false negative. Some other users has already reported it, but maybe they bump up the priority if more people complain.)

hygicell

maybe someone knows a way to disable the quarantine for one specific file inside Kapersky?
I didn't know the way to do that,
so took the radical decision to dump Kapersky
installed ZoneAlarm instead.

FatKid73

Hi All,
I'm fairly new to Sketchup, and am trying to install the Cleanup plugin - I have a current model that's massive and therefore causing problems in rendering plugins such as Lumenrt or Maxwell Render -
Could someone please walk me thru the install of the Cleanup plugin for Mac?
Any help would be appreciated - Thanks.

Dave R

The subject has been covered repeatedly. I guess you could go through this thread and find it several times. Or you can look at the thread specifically on installing plugins.