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    • thomthomT Offline
      thomthom
      last edited by

      @hygicell said:

      ... and it might be that I had installed solid inspector in between tests, as I was in the learning curve for solids
      which would probably explain the error

      That would make more sense.

      @hygicell said:

      please be more specific for both folders: empty completely or temporarily rename and create an emty one

      Doesn't matter how you empty them. Rename, move or whatever.

      Just try to start SketchUp with empty Plugins folder and empty VirtualStore folder.

      If it starts without errors with empty Plugins folder, install Vertex Tools.

      If Vertex Tools then works it would indicate some issue with your existing plugins folder and you'd have to incrementally start to reinstall your other plugins and see when any error appearing.

      We would then be able to identify when the problem occurs and determine if we're looking at a plugin conflict.

      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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        hygicell
        last edited by

        I think we have established that ttVertex works, apart for the solids inspector error
        I am ready to do as you recommend

        thought it would maybe spare us some time if first I test with all extensions except ttVertex disabled in the preferences window:
        ScreenHunter_33 Oct. 10 13.45.jpg
        ScreenHunter_34 Oct. 10 13.46.jpg
        ScreenHunter_35 Oct. 10 13.46.jpg

        didn't do much good, quite the contrary 😠
        so I will proceed
        but while I start doing what you ask, maybe you can inspect if at first sight there might be a conflict that has been exposed:

        Error Loading File C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/TT_Vertex/loader.rb
        uninitialized constant TT_VertexError Loading File C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/lss_toolbar/lss_blend.rb
        undefined method add_item' for nil:NilClassError Loading File C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/lss_toolbar/lss_crvsmth.rb undefined method add_item' for nil:NilClassError Loading File C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/lss_toolbar/lss_ctrlpnts.rb
        undefined method add_item' for nil:NilClassError Loading File C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/lss_toolbar/lss_fllwedgs.rb undefined method add_item' for nil:NilClassError Loading File C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/lss_toolbar/lss_mshstick.rb
        undefined method add_item' for nil:NilClassError Loading File C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/lss_toolbar/lss_pathface.rb undefined method add_item' for nil:NilClassError Loading File C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/lss_toolbar/lss_pnts2mesh.rb
        undefined method add_item' for nil:NilClassError Loading File C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/lss_toolbar/lss_recursive.rb undefined method add_item' for nil:NilClassError Loading File C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/lss_toolbar/lss_tlbr_common.rb
        undefined method `add_separator' for nil:NilClass

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        • thomthomT Offline
          thomthom
          last edited by

          Not all plugins can be enabled/disabled via the Extension list.

          Not sure about that error. I'm unfamiliar with that is prefixed with "lss"... But this doesn't mean immediately there's a conflict with that. Maybe something it required was deactivated. This is why to be sure one need to do one by one - I'm afraid.

          Just to be 100% sure I've understood correctly: Vertex Tools loads with no issues when it's installed by itself?

          Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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            hygicell
            last edited by

            you must be hungry by now,
            so I have sent you a box of cookies (Belgian First Quality Pralines)
            Frank
            😍

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            • thomthomT Offline
              thomthom
              last edited by

              @hygicell said:

              you must be hungry by now,
              so I have sent you a box of cookies
              Frank

              😲

              That was mighty kind of you! Now let us hope we can pin down the source of your issue. I'll feel really bad if I cannot help. 😕

              Btw, are you going to Basecamp?

              Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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              • H Offline
                hygicell
                last edited by

                I will proceed along your instructions

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                • H Offline
                  hygicell
                  last edited by

                  @thomthom said:

                  Not all plugins can be enabled/disabled via the Extension list.

                  a suggestion for a plugin or for sketchup?
                  would make debugging fast and easy

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                  • thomthomT Offline
                    thomthom
                    last edited by

                    @hygicell said:

                    @thomthom said:

                    Not all plugins can be enabled/disabled via the Extension list.

                    a suggestion for a plugin or for sketchup?
                    would make debugging fast and easy

                    I think Dana was working on a Plugin Manager... ...I'll poke him and query the status.

                    Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
                      last edited by

                      Whoa! After a remote session (thanks to Teamviewer) I found the culprit! It was organizer which doesn't just modify the menus etc, it even loads the files it iterates - causing Vertex Tools' loader.rb to be loaded before tt_vertex.rb - because it made the assumption that nothing other than tt_vertex.rb would be loading it. 😒

                      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                        hygicell
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                            :facepunch:  :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:  :heart_eyes:  :sunglasses:  :sunny:  :smile:  :smile:  :wink:  :open_mouth:  :astonished:
                        

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                        • Dave RD Offline
                          Dave R
                          last edited by

                          Organizer?

                          Etaoin Shrdlu

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                          (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

                          G28 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0

                          M30

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                          • thomthomT Offline
                            thomthom
                            last edited by

                            favicon

                            (www.smustard.com)

                            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                            • Dave RD Offline
                              Dave R
                              last edited by

                              Ah. So that's not so good.

                              Etaoin Shrdlu

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                              (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

                              G28 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0

                              M30

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                              • thomthomT Offline
                                thomthom
                                last edited by

                                It does say in the description of Organizer that sub-folders in the plugins folder needs to be excluded (because it assumes all sub-folders otherwise belongs to Smustard... 😕 )

                                But I had no idea how that plugin worked. I was just somewhat aware it did something with the menus. So now I've been debugging, with my user who's also had to deal with this, for the last three days. I don't like the invasive behaviour of Organizer.

                                Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                                • TIGT Offline
                                  TIG Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  Neither had I !

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  There is also a mechanism for developers to easily exclude their subfolders so Organizer will not try to load the contents of those folders. This should result in a smoother experience for users, who won't have to contend with manually maintaining the excluded folders list in the SmustardOrganizerExcludeFolders.txt file.

                                  To do this: in your subfolder, create an empty text file called "exclude.txt" - that's it!
                                  I too don't like the way that 'other developers' [AKA most of us] are expected to avoid their sledgehammer.
                                  There are many tools that have subfolders of other files that don't auto-load...
                                  They never should be auto-loaded anyway !? Surely that must be up to loader-scripts or extension-loaders to decide... Why has RickW made it this way at all ?
                                  Have you messaged him ??
                                  Another candidate for the 'Quarantine Badge' 😒

                                  TIG

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                                  • thomthomT Offline
                                    thomthom
                                    last edited by

                                    Yea - as it is now it by-passes the Extension mechanism of Plugins. Unless they exclude themselves. Which is really not something he should expect a developer to do. It shouldn't be an opt-out system. How on earth is a developer expected to know about the behaviour of another plugin like that?

                                    I've not contacted him, no. I exhausted my computer time today debugging this.

                                    Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                    • thomthomT Offline
                                      thomthom
                                      last edited by

                                      I'm puzzled why he made the Plugins folderstructure into the hierarchy of the custom menus... o_O

                                      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                      • J Offline
                                        jokewalker
                                        last edited by

                                        Hi All!

                                        Sorry for posting this without first combing through the preceding pages. My anti-virus (Kaspersky) is going crazy over the tt_api.so file thinking it's malware. Anyone else encountering this? Didn't seem to bother anything up until just recently. Puzzling.....

                                        Thoughts?! Thanks in advance!

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                                        • thomthomT Offline
                                          thomthom
                                          last edited by

                                          Yes, there's been a few reports. Tell Kaspersky to leave the file alone. (And please also make a report to Kaspersky about the false negative. Some other users has already reported it, but maybe they bump up the priority if more people complain.)

                                          Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                            hygicell
                                            last edited by

                                            maybe someone knows a way to disable the quarantine for one specific file inside Kapersky?
                                            I didn't know the way to do that,
                                            so took the radical decision to dump Kapersky
                                            installed ZoneAlarm instead.

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