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    • thomthomT Offline
      thomthom
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      Not all plugins can be enabled/disabled via the Extension list.

      Not sure about that error. I'm unfamiliar with that is prefixed with "lss"... But this doesn't mean immediately there's a conflict with that. Maybe something it required was deactivated. This is why to be sure one need to do one by one - I'm afraid.

      Just to be 100% sure I've understood correctly: Vertex Tools loads with no issues when it's installed by itself?

      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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        hygicell
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        you must be hungry by now,
        so I have sent you a box of cookies (Belgian First Quality Pralines)
        Frank
        😍

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        • thomthomT Offline
          thomthom
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          @hygicell said:

          you must be hungry by now,
          so I have sent you a box of cookies
          Frank

          😲

          That was mighty kind of you! Now let us hope we can pin down the source of your issue. I'll feel really bad if I cannot help. 😕

          Btw, are you going to Basecamp?

          Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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            hygicell
            last edited by

            I will proceed along your instructions

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              hygicell
              last edited by

              @thomthom said:

              Not all plugins can be enabled/disabled via the Extension list.

              a suggestion for a plugin or for sketchup?
              would make debugging fast and easy

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              • thomthomT Offline
                thomthom
                last edited by

                @hygicell said:

                @thomthom said:

                Not all plugins can be enabled/disabled via the Extension list.

                a suggestion for a plugin or for sketchup?
                would make debugging fast and easy

                I think Dana was working on a Plugin Manager... ...I'll poke him and query the status.

                Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
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                  Whoa! After a remote session (thanks to Teamviewer) I found the culprit! It was organizer which doesn't just modify the menus etc, it even loads the files it iterates - causing Vertex Tools' loader.rb to be loaded before tt_vertex.rb - because it made the assumption that nothing other than tt_vertex.rb would be loading it. 😒

                  Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                    hygicell
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                        :facepunch:  :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:  :heart_eyes:  :sunglasses:  :sunny:  :smile:  :smile:  :wink:  :open_mouth:  :astonished:
                    

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                    • Dave RD Offline
                      Dave R
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                      Organizer?

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                      • thomthomT Offline
                        thomthom
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                        favicon

                        (www.smustard.com)

                        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                          Dave R
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                          Ah. So that's not so good.

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                          • thomthomT Offline
                            thomthom
                            last edited by

                            It does say in the description of Organizer that sub-folders in the plugins folder needs to be excluded (because it assumes all sub-folders otherwise belongs to Smustard... 😕 )

                            But I had no idea how that plugin worked. I was just somewhat aware it did something with the menus. So now I've been debugging, with my user who's also had to deal with this, for the last three days. I don't like the invasive behaviour of Organizer.

                            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                            • TIGT Offline
                              TIG Moderator
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                              Neither had I !

                              @unknownuser said:

                              There is also a mechanism for developers to easily exclude their subfolders so Organizer will not try to load the contents of those folders. This should result in a smoother experience for users, who won't have to contend with manually maintaining the excluded folders list in the SmustardOrganizerExcludeFolders.txt file.

                              To do this: in your subfolder, create an empty text file called "exclude.txt" - that's it!
                              I too don't like the way that 'other developers' [AKA most of us] are expected to avoid their sledgehammer.
                              There are many tools that have subfolders of other files that don't auto-load...
                              They never should be auto-loaded anyway !? Surely that must be up to loader-scripts or extension-loaders to decide... Why has RickW made it this way at all ?
                              Have you messaged him ??
                              Another candidate for the 'Quarantine Badge' 😒

                              TIG

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                              • thomthomT Offline
                                thomthom
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                                Yea - as it is now it by-passes the Extension mechanism of Plugins. Unless they exclude themselves. Which is really not something he should expect a developer to do. It shouldn't be an opt-out system. How on earth is a developer expected to know about the behaviour of another plugin like that?

                                I've not contacted him, no. I exhausted my computer time today debugging this.

                                Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                • thomthomT Offline
                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by

                                  I'm puzzled why he made the Plugins folderstructure into the hierarchy of the custom menus... o_O

                                  Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                    jokewalker
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                                    Hi All!

                                    Sorry for posting this without first combing through the preceding pages. My anti-virus (Kaspersky) is going crazy over the tt_api.so file thinking it's malware. Anyone else encountering this? Didn't seem to bother anything up until just recently. Puzzling.....

                                    Thoughts?! Thanks in advance!

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                                    • thomthomT Offline
                                      thomthom
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                                      Yes, there's been a few reports. Tell Kaspersky to leave the file alone. (And please also make a report to Kaspersky about the false negative. Some other users has already reported it, but maybe they bump up the priority if more people complain.)

                                      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                        hygicell
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                                        maybe someone knows a way to disable the quarantine for one specific file inside Kapersky?
                                        I didn't know the way to do that,
                                        so took the radical decision to dump Kapersky
                                        installed ZoneAlarm instead.

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                                          FatKid73
                                          last edited by

                                          Hi All,
                                          I'm fairly new to Sketchup, and am trying to install the Cleanup plugin - I have a current model that's massive and therefore causing problems in rendering plugins such as Lumenrt or Maxwell Render -
                                          Could someone please walk me thru the install of the Cleanup plugin for Mac?
                                          Any help would be appreciated - Thanks.

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                                          • Dave RD Offline
                                            Dave R
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                                            The subject has been covered repeatedly. I guess you could go through this thread and find it several times. Or you can look at the thread specifically on installing plugins.

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