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    • EarthMoverE Offline
      EarthMover
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      Thomas, I remember seeing somewhere that you were able to assign contextual shortcuts to Move, Rotate and Scale for when vertex tools was open and have them the same keyboard shortcuts for the native tools. I can't seem to make it work. Any help?

      Also, in a future release, would it be possible to have the transform tools select the vertex if nothing is selected, similar to the native SU transform tools? And perhaps a deselect all button?

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      • thomthomT Offline
        thomthom
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        @earthmover said:

        Thomas, I remember seeing somewhere that you were able to assign contextual shortcuts to Move, Rotate and Scale for when vertex tools was open and have them the same keyboard shortcuts for the native tools. I can't seem to make it work. Any help?

        Under the Tool->Vertex Tools menus you find Move, Scale, Rotate and Select - if you reassign your shortcuts to these, then they will activate the appropriate tools inside and outside vertex mode.

        @earthmover said:

        Also, in a future release, would it be possible to have the transform tools select the vertex if nothing is selected, similar to the native SU transform tools?

        Possible. For the next revision I'm looking into the UI. For instance I'm adding manipulator gizmos. While I do that I can also revise how the tools work with nothing selected. It would fit in with SU's behaviour.

        @earthmover said:

        And perhaps a deselect all button?

        Toolbar button?

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          xrok1
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          will we see a new release soon? πŸ˜„

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          • thomthomT Offline
            thomthom
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            Sounds like a good feature. πŸ‘

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            • EarthMoverE Offline
              EarthMover
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              Thanks.

              Regarding the deselect, I was thinking that if you could hover select with the transform tools that it would be useful to quickly clear the selection without having to access the right click menu, but I guess it would be irrelevant if it acted as the native tools and allows you to manipulate a vertex and then release the selection. So simply, I was just looking to have the vertex move tool be able to utilize it's soft selection to bounce from vert to vert if all verts are deselected, in the same way the native move tool does.

              See here - http://www.screencast.com/t/OTRmZGM1MjA

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              • EarthMoverE Offline
                EarthMover
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                I've been playing with vertex tools most of the afternoon and wanted to say thanks again. Well worth the $20, as I've been telling all my designer friends who use sketchup.

                In the future, any plans to add a collapse vert or target weld?
                Also, possible to add scaling from center with the shift key, similar to native sketchup?

                Looking forward to the gizmo.

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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
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                  @earthmover said:

                  In the future, any plans to add a collapse vert or target weld?

                  Yes.
                  I should put up a list of what I have on my todo list.

                  @earthmover said:

                  Also, possible to add scaling from center with the shift key, similar to native sketchup?

                  Scaling needs much better options than it currently has. Doesn't even let you scale non-uniformly. 😞

                  But the gizmos should be a great improvement to manipulation control. I have another plugin in the works which will act as prototype for the gizmos.

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                  • Bob JamesB Offline
                    Bob James
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                    @unknownuser said:

                    would of been sweet if i could've made the plane then chose (either via a single vertex or some other kind of input) which height the plane would be leveled at..

                    other uses might be for cutting a level tract in the side of a hill for instance..

                    i dunno, not that important but just an idea.

                    +1
                    I spent a lot of time on my current project using Vertex Tools doing just as Jeff described: make planar, create a reference plane for rotation of the sloped plane, rotate the plane. Jeff's idea would have been really useful πŸŽ‰

                    I also had considerable difficulty making the move tool move in the direction I wanted to go. Operator error?? I tried the up arrow key, but that doesn't seem to have any effect. Guess I need some guidance TT. πŸ˜‰

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
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                      @bob james said:

                      +1
                      I spent a lot of time on my current project using Vertex Tools doing just as Jeff described: make planar, create a reference plane for rotation of the sloped plane, rotate the plane. Jeff's idea would have been really useful πŸŽ‰

                      So instead of best fit plane - you want to project the selected vertices to a user defined plane?

                      @bob james said:

                      I also had considerable difficulty making the move tool move in the direction I wanted to go. Operator error?? I tried the up arrow key, but that doesn't seem to have any effect. Guess I need some guidance TT. πŸ˜‰

                      The arrow keys didn't lock the movement to the axis?

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                      • Bob JamesB Offline
                        Bob James
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                        @thomthom said:

                        So instead of best fit plane - you want to project the selected vertices to a user defined plane?

                        Yes, that would be great: perhaps by selecting one of the vertices as "this height".

                        @thomthom said:

                        The arrow keys didn't lock the movement to the axis?

                        Not that I could tell. I'll check it out more today to be sure.
                        It would also be very useful if I could "say" move this vertex to "this spot".

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                        • thomthomT Offline
                          thomthom
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                          @bob james said:

                          It would also be very useful if I could "say" move this vertex to "this spot".

                          ? what do you mean by "spot"?

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                          • Bob JamesB Offline
                            Bob James
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                            Spot: one of the vertices in the plane

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                            • thomthomT Offline
                              thomthom
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                              @bob james said:

                              It would also be very useful if I could "say" move this vertex to "this spot".

                              I'm confused to what you describe, this just sounds like a normal Move operation to me... ?

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                              • Bob JamesB Offline
                                Bob James
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                                TT,

                                I was unable, with any repeatability, to "grab" a vertex and move it to coincide with another vertex: the purpose being to close up an opening in the mesh.
                                Basically, I was unable to control the arbitrary direction I needed to move in order to connect with the other vertex.

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                                • thomthomT Offline
                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by

                                  hmm...
                                  so axis lock doesn't work for you?
                                  and move doesn't work? (select a vertex, activate Move, click on the vertex when the inference snaps to it and click on another vertex?) ❓ πŸ˜•

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                                  • thomthomT Offline
                                    thomthom
                                    last edited by

                                    Would you be able to record a video?

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                                    • Bob JamesB Offline
                                      Bob James
                                      last edited by

                                      @thomthom said:

                                      hmm...
                                      so axis lock doesn't work for you?
                                      πŸ˜•

                                      Not always

                                      @thomthom said:

                                      hmm...
                                      and move doesn't work? (select a vertex, activate Move, click on the vertex when the inference snaps to it and click on another vertex?) ❓ πŸ˜•

                                      Sometimes

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                                      • Bob JamesB Offline
                                        Bob James
                                        last edited by

                                        @thomthom said:

                                        Would you be able to record a video?

                                        Yes, as soon as I can after word today (or tomorrow πŸ˜‰ )

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                                        • thomthomT Offline
                                          thomthom
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                                          That would be great. Since it's intermittent, as you report, the trigger could be under some circumstances which I'd not use it - so being able to see in-action use would help immensely. πŸ‘

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                                          • Bob JamesB Offline
                                            Bob James
                                            last edited by

                                            One thing: If I have a whole row or pattern of vertices already selected and want to move them (let's say "up") what does it mean when it says, "Pick two points to move......."? I've already several points "picked"????

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