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    • EdsonE Offline
      Edson
      last edited by

      beautiful, TIG. it shows once more the power of sketchup. but nonetheless i will tell as a friend: plugins can make your life much easier! there are some people in this forum who make wonderful plugins... 😉

      edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
      http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
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        @edson said:

        beautiful, TIG. it shows once more the power of sketchup. but nonetheless i will tell as a friend: plugins can make your life much easier! there are some people in this forum who make wonderful plugins... 😉

        Maybe I should try some .... 🤣

        TIG

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        • charly2008C Offline
          charly2008
          last edited by

          FollowMeand keep with Grow could be the ideal solution.


          Spiral stair.jpg

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            I deliberately avoided mentioning my Grow tool as I was trying to show it all 'long-hand'... 😒

            TIG

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            • charly2008C Offline
              charly2008
              last edited by

              Hi TIG,

              shure you can help me to solve a small problem with Grow. How can i manage that the Center of the Grow object meets a individual axe.

              Thanks in advance

              Karlheinz


              Spiral stair.jpg


              Spiral stair1.jpg

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              • TIGT Offline
                TIG Moderator
                last edited by

                Manipulate the component's axis and its location relative to the 'growth' point....

                TIG

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                • charly2008C Offline
                  charly2008
                  last edited by

                  The final result with FollowMeandKeep and Grow.


                  Spiral stair.jpg


                  Spiral stair1.jpg

                  He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                  • honoluludesktopH Offline
                    honoluludesktop
                    last edited by

                    You guys are great, hope I can find this post if I ever do a spiral stairs in SU.

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                    • P Offline
                      pmiller
                      last edited by

                      No offense to all you spiral stair makers but the wide stairs that you show with winders coming to a narrow point would be very dangerous (especially in descent). I would suggest a bigger inside hole or solid radius to assure a minimum tread depth. That's why typical library or residential stairs are quite narrow in width so as to keep a person in the middle of the tread with proper depth for the foot. Such wide stairs with point winders would be prohibited by code in the US, even for non-egress stairs in commercial stuctures.

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                      • Chris FullmerC Offline
                        Chris Fullmer
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                        But if you put a traffic dividing handrail right down the middle, then make the inside lane flat and smooth, you could have a really nice safe up half with wide treads, and a nice spiral slide down lane. 😄

                        Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                        All my Plugins I've written

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                        • pilouP Offline
                          pilou
                          last edited by

                          do you know this mythical thread? 😉

                          Frenchy Pilou
                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                          My Little site :)

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                          • W Offline
                            watkins
                            last edited by

                            Inspired by TIG, and all done without plugins. A handrail would be fairly easy to include in the model.


                            Spiral staircase_Bob.skp


                            Spiral staircase_Bob.jpg

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                            • daleD Offline
                              dale
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                              @unknownuser said:

                              do you know this mythical thread? 😉

                              Well there will be a lot of down time at workplaces around the world now Pilou....
                              It ia a mythical thread, I think it gave mimi the title "stairmaster" because of the number of great posts she made.

                              Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                              • charly2008C Offline
                                charly2008
                                last edited by

                                Hi Spiral stair Fans,

                                Here a few further examples. The construction is best started at the point of origin. Then one has the exact center of the construction.

                                I have also tried to cover the bottom of the stairs with Follow Me and Keep but this was not successful. Only the first stair was covered.

                                For the hand rail i tried the Balustrade Rubies but both doesn't work in my Sketchup 7.


                                Spiral stair.jpg


                                Spiral stair2.jpg


                                Spiral stair.skp

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                                • W Offline
                                  watkins
                                  last edited by

                                  Finished model with handrail


                                  Spiral staircase_finished.jpg


                                  Spiral staircase_finished.skp

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                                  • EdsonE Offline
                                    Edson
                                    last edited by

                                    @honoluludesktop said:

                                    You guys are great, hope I can find this post if I ever do a spiral stairs in SU.

                                    how about bookmarking it? 😉

                                    edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                                    http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                                    • EdsonE Offline
                                      Edson
                                      last edited by

                                      @pmiller said:

                                      No offense to all you spiral stair makers but the wide stairs that you show with winders coming to a narrow point would be very dangerous (especially in descent). I would suggest a bigger inside hole or solid radius to assure a minimum tread depth. That's why typical library or residential stairs are quite narrow in width so as to keep a person in the middle of the tread with proper depth for the foot. Such wide stairs with point winders would be prohibited by code in the US, even for non-egress stairs in commercial stuctures.

                                      no offense taken, paul. if you look at the last one i posted it has an inside radius of 50cm which makes for at least 15cm (6") at ther narrowest point. in my opinion, for a spiral stair to be confortable it must be quite wide as the one in the picture shown at my first post.

                                      edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                                      http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                                      • TIGT Offline
                                        TIG Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        To repeat an earlier thread...
                                        When making spiral steps there are often rules/codes to adhere to..
                                        In the UK on narrower flights <1m [typically domestic or small commercial flights] you must have at least 50mm of plan-tread at the innermost part and the plan-tread on the centerline should be even for every step, and follow the rule 2R+G >=550mm <=700mm - where R is the Rise and G is the Going [plan-tread].
                                        If you draw this in plan it limits the relative angle of adjacent nosings and effectively sets a limit on the taper angle between them = ~15degrees depending on the configuration etc...
                                        For wider stairs you measure in from both edges [strings] 270mm and the same max/min pitch applies, 2R+G >=550mm <=700mm to the two locations
                                        Any landings shall be the same length as their width measured along their centerline.
                                        The minimum/maximum allowable Rise and Going varies with the building type too.
                                        'Private Stair'[one dwelling] R >=155mm <=220mm and G >=223mm <=300mm [vertical pitch is also limited to 42 degrees - usually trapped by 2R+G rules]
                                        'Institutional and Assembly Stair' R >=135mm <=180mm and G >=280mm <=340mm
                                        'Other Stair' R >=150mm <=190mm and G >=250mm <=320mm
                                        BUT AD-Part-M [accessible/disabled=all commercial/public building etc] R <= 170mm G >= 250mm
                                        So it's best to draw some test treads and place rotate a couple to see it they are right before committing to a complex 3D assembly...
                                        🤓

                                        TIG

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                                        • EdsonE Offline
                                          Edson
                                          last edited by

                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          do you know this mythical thread? 😉

                                          i wish i had access to it. according to ppb i do not have permission to access that page. i wonder how they expect me to participate more if i am not allowed to access certain threads.

                                          edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                                          http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                                          • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                            jeff hammond
                                            last edited by

                                            randomly thought of this earlier today.. i drew it pretty darn fast though it could use a little fine tuning.
                                            shape bender by chris fullmer..

                                            spiralbender.jpg

                                            dotdotdot

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