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    • Al HartA Offline
      Al Hart
      last edited by

      @unknownuser said:

      I don't partake in the Distilled Grains, Fermented Fruits or Brewed Hops.

      So. . . .here's some fruit punch. 💚

      Good work.

      Now we need to see how to put buibbles in the liquid. 😄

      Al Hart

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      • charly2008C Offline
        charly2008
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        Unfortunately, I had only Ramazotti.


        whiskey.jpg

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        • david_hD Offline
          david_h
          last edited by

          What I am having a hard time with is rendering the "Whiskey" as if it were clear water. The Whiskey component always comes out dark and looks more like Coke. I have been messing around with lights, materials, alphas (which I don't understand anyway. .. .) etc.

          How would i do that? Using Twilight. Any Idears out there?

          If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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          • Al HartA Offline
            Al Hart
            last edited by

            @unknownuser said:

            What I am having a hard time with is rendering the "Whiskey" as if it were clear water. The Whiskey component always comes out dark and looks more like Coke. I have been messing around with lights, materials, alphas (which I don't understand anyway. .. .) etc.

            How would i do that? Using Twilight. Any Idears out there?

            Many of these Whiskeys seem too dark.

            Try making it a bit more transparent, and try adding some light from the side rather than the top to lightin up the Wkiskey.

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              Whaat
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              @unknownuser said:

              This has been running for 38 hours.

              Hey modelhead. Some things to keep in mind with Indigo:
              Indigo uses physically based parameters. One of the keys for a render like this is that you have to tell Indigo what medium 'displaces' another. This is done with the 'precedence' settings. For example, we want the ice to displace the whiskey so make sure that the precedence setting for the ice is a higher number than the whiskey.

              Also, when modeling a liquid in a glass, it is important that the surface of the liquid is actually 'inside' the glass. Then, you need to ensure that the glass precedence setting is higher than the whiskey so that the glass will 'displace' the whiskey.

              I would lower the absorption of the whiskey using the SketchUp opacity setting as well.

              Hope this makes sense. 😄

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              • david_hD Offline
                david_h
                last edited by

                @unknownuser said:

                I would lower the absorption of the whiskey

                This would help a lot of people I would expect. 💚

                @unknownuser said:

                glass precedence setting is higher
                I am not sure what is meant by that.

                Sorry I am so thick. 😳

                If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                  d12dozr
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                  @unknownuser said:

                  @unknownuser said:

                  @unknownuser said:

                  glass precedence setting is higher
                  I am not sure what is meant by that.

                  Pretty sure that is just an Indigo setting

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                  • david_hD Offline
                    david_h
                    last edited by

                    Fish glass.jpg

                    Things get a little mixed up around this here forum

                    If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                      museummaker
                      last edited by

                      Win! 🤣

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                        d12dozr
                        last edited by

                        😆 nice David...render looks good too

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                          tomer1981
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                          Hey guys.

                          For those of you who don't remember - I was the one who modeled the whiskey glass & ice cubes, and I'm quite honored that you all use it for your renders.

                          I'm not quite familiar with the rendering program/plugin you're using, but in the I rendered it with FryRender (found at: http://www.randomcontrol.com/). I saw you were discussing the lighting methods for the rendering, and I must tell you (what you probably already know) - LIGHTING IS EVERYTHING. In my render I didn't use any light fixtures. Instead, I used an HDRI, for IBL (Image based lighting). Meaning - a 32 bit image (.hdr format), which is "wrapped" around an imaginary sphere around the model, and is applying light to the entire model. This method is extremely efficient, and gives awesome results, in less time.

                          About the materials - Fryrender uses it's own materials, and it doesn't rely on the ones from sketchup. So, it doesn't matter what material you specify in sketchup (color, transparency, etc.) - the one you pick in Fryrender can be different.

                          I don't know your rendering program, and I don't know if it supports IBL, but from what I see - it gives pretty nice renderings.

                          You can check out more renderings i did with fryrender, and observe the lighting methods:
                          http://www.flickr.com/photos/41836385@N07/sets/72157622515799491/

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                          • Al HartA Offline
                            Al Hart
                            last edited by

                            @tomer1981 said:

                            Hey guys.

                            For those of you who don't remember - I was the one who modeled the whiskey glass & ice cubes, and I'm quite honored that you all use it for your renders.

                            I'm not quite familiar with the rendering program/plugin you're using, but in the I rendered it with FryRender.

                            Thanks for creating the model for us, and the initial rendering. I'm sure you noticed that I added a comment to the model that it was being used for this Rendering Workshop.

                            No particular rendering engine is featured in these workshops, but rather users of all rendering products are encouraged to demonstrate and improve their rendering skills through interaction with other users.

                            Thank you for your comments on how you produced your renderings.

                            For the record, here is tomer1981 rendering of the whiskey glass:

                            http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4015/4318646787_0dafc71abe.jpg

                            Al Hart

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                              Sheik
                              last edited by

                              One more for the road.
                              A small note on the model; you need to cut holes in the surface of the whiskey where the icecubes are, if you are using an physically accurate engine.
                              On the other hand this is actually a situation that render engines(atleast Maxwell) can´t get physically right. When light first enters from air to ice and then into whiskey, that ray of light will think it is in air, as it passed thru the backface of ice (not thru the frontface of whiskey). Still, the difference is probably very hard to see...

                              http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz242/Sheiken/whiskey4.jpg

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                              • Al HartA Offline
                                Al Hart
                                last edited by

                                I started a new Workshop on Wood Cabinets.

                                These aren't as much fun as a Whiskey glass. But it might be worth honing your wood surfaces skills a bit...

                                http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=26005

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                                • R Offline
                                  richcat
                                  last edited by

                                  Late as always - only just finished the bottle

                                  My recent attempt
                                  http://nxt.accurender.com/photos/sketchup/images/17514/800x600.aspx

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                                  • R Offline
                                    richcat
                                    last edited by

                                    Another late one this time with octane, just as I open another bottle 😉

                                    I know - Wood texture probably not large enough, glass appears to be floating, and ice appears too silver? - but I'm looking through rose tinted specs, and I like it


                                    whisky copy1a.png

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                                    • david_hD Offline
                                      david_h
                                      last edited by

                                      Like I said. . .i am no judge of distilled beverages, but those look nice.

                                      If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                                      • soloS Offline
                                        solo
                                        last edited by

                                        Richard, I like the first one (above the Octane one), what render app did you use?

                                        http://www.solos-art.com

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                                          richcat
                                          last edited by

                                          Hi Pete
                                          IRender nXt, just honing my skills for the rendering competition, don't get much chance to render or model this time of year as most of my projects open in the next couple of weeks

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                                          • thomthomT Offline
                                            thomthom
                                            last edited by

                                            FYI to you lot rendering these ice cubes: if you render with VfSU you could submit it to the current ASGVis Render competition. The topic is ice: http://forum.asgvis.com/index.php?topic=7520.0

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