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    • Al HartA Offline
      Al Hart
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      @escapeartist said:

      Or am I missing completely what you are trying to get at? Are you trying to achieve a similar effect, without applying self illumination of this type?

      I think what you showed in your rendering is just what I am talking about. The ability to make something look illuminated, without using or adding any actual light sources to the scene.

      @unknownuser said:

      New light options including projector lights and manual inputs of light intensities for self luminating sources.

      I presume that in the image you showed, we see a reflection of the lit iPhone, but it is not actually a light source??

      Al Hart

      http:wiki.renderplus.comimageseefRender_plus_colored30x30%29.PNG
      IRender nXt from Render Plus

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      • jeff hammondJ Offline
        jeff hammond
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        @al hart said:

        @unknownuser said:

        i dunno, when my iphone is off, it's just a black screen.

        Oops - I guess U need to buy one.

        But - does it have a lit and non-lit mode?

        no, it's just like a standard computer monitor.. on or off and that's it

        http://obsdesign.freznell.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/iphone-off.jpg

        dotdotdot

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        • olisheaO Offline
          olishea
          last edited by

          al: nobody said you cant make it an emitter.....there are many ways of doing this but its the most realistic way of achieving the result. you cant really make something look illuminated without showing its effect on neighbouring surfaces/particles (air/dust etc). correct me if i'm wrong. you are basically trying to make a texture look brighter which isn't convincing.

          why are you trying to avoid putting lights behind it? this is largely how screens are illuminated in real life. like a large emitter......again correct me if im wrong...but saturating and brightening a texture wont make it look illuminated.

          oli

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          • EscapeArtistE Offline
            EscapeArtist
            last edited by

            @al hart said:

            I presume that in the image you showed, we see a reflection of the lit iPhone, but it is not actually a light source??

            The texture itself is the source of light, there are no other lights whatsoever in the scene. The reflection on the surface below the screen is actually reflected light off of the ground plane. Kerkthea will create light based on the color of the image used - black, no light; green, green light, etc... Kerkythea does not do "light linking" (yet), where light can be shone on one object of the scene to make it brighter but not affect any other objects. Other render engines can do this though.

            One could put lights behind a texture, but I couldn't imagine the difficulty of getting nice, even light out of a large surface by arranging light sources behind it. It would be more involved setup in the render engine as well, you'd have to do something like a multi-layered texture with transparency mapping and translucency set up for the colors.

            Another example, this time the blacks are not completely black so they do emit some light. A quick "plasma TV".
            testscr.jpg

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              Ultimatez 32
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              twilight easy 09, 24 minutes
              phone.jpg
              planning to buy the real version soon

              Windows 7 64-bit, Intel Core i3 M350 @2.27GHz, nVidia GEFORCE 310M 512Mb with CUDA, 4gb RAM

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              • W Offline
                weizxwilliam
                last edited by

                Mine first try ;D


                iphonepic1.png

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                • R Offline
                  richcat
                  last edited by

                  Just got a few minutes - eventually - to give this challenge a go.


                  iphone1.jpg


                  iphone2.jpg

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                    21D
                    last edited by

                    My quick try,
                    exported to MODO 401 for rendering
                    Modo Rendered

                    "I prefer drawing to talking. Drawing is faster, and leaves less room for lies."
                    Le Corbusier

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                    • boofredlayB Offline
                      boofredlay
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                      Ha Ha. Great render Rob. 👍

                      http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                        dspace
                        last edited by

                        Just join, so just post....a quickie for the shine..but not the emitter..oops! 😉


                        iphonexi.png

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                          robmoors
                          last edited by

                          Iphone sucks Android rules!!
                          SUCK IT!!!!

                          http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Blaze_X/HTC Hero/HTCHero-1.jpg

                          Vray for Sketchup
                          Model by me
                          HTC Hero

                          Rob Moors
                          Architecture Student

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                          • Large_BlackL Offline
                            Large_Black
                            last edited by

                            Hi to everyone, i would like to share my attempt.
                            Rendered with Vray for SU, SU lines overlay, some level, color correction and DOF in PP.
                            No light, only the emissive material of the phone.
                            Sincerly Enrico

                            http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/605/91784613.th.jpg

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                              wahoowetzel
                              last edited by

                              quick question with the LCD screens. I'm working on a LCD TV and I wanted to know if there is a way to in/decrease the amount light the image (screen material) emits without affecting the actual image's appearance. What I'm getting right now is a decent light level being emitted but the image is getting washed out. Any ideas?

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                                d12dozr
                                last edited by

                                What render app are you using?

                                3D Printing with SketchUp Book
                                http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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                                • Al HartA Offline
                                  Al Hart
                                  last edited by

                                  @wahoowetzel said:

                                  quick question with the LCD screens. I'm working on a LCD TV and I wanted to know if there is a way to in/decrease the amount light the image (screen material) emits without affecting the actual image's appearance. What I'm getting right now is a decent light level being emitted but the image is getting washed out. Any ideas?

                                  One trick you could try is to place an invisible, second face in front of the visible face. Make the second face the light - diffuse so the light only goes up - and then adjust the intensity of the invisible face get the lighting effect you want, without having it effect the illumination of the visible face.

                                  If you are using IRender nXt, you would illuminate the visible face with "self glow", - a setting which make it seem illuminated without emitting illumination, and make the invisible face a diffuse light. By placing the two faces in separate lighting channels, then you can use the post-processing image editor to quickly adjust the lighting intensities and effects of the two faces without having to re-render ay of the scene.

                                  Al Hart

                                  http:wiki.renderplus.comimageseefRender_plus_colored30x30%29.PNG
                                  IRender nXt from Render Plus

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                                    nomeradona
                                    last edited by

                                    Keyshots.. real time about 2 minutes

                                    http://i334.photobucket.com/albums/m421/nomeradona_1234/Iphone_keyshots.jpg

                                    visit my blog: http://www.nomeradona.blogspot.com

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                                      nomeradona
                                      last edited by

                                      some parodies

                                      Iphone captains speaking...

                                      http://i334.photobucket.com/albums/m421/nomeradona_1234/iphone30.jpg

                                      "all man will have"... the main goal of mr.mac

                                      http://i334.photobucket.com/albums/m421/nomeradona_1234/iphone27.jpg

                                      visit my blog: http://www.nomeradona.blogspot.com

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                                      • pyrolunaP Offline
                                        pyroluna
                                        last edited by

                                        Hey everyone
                                        I'm still sort of new here but hey this is fun. I notice people seem to have the same ideas... just a little while back I modeled an i-phone so I could test light-emitting materials in v-ray for SU. So I'll just post the renders...
                                        This one is lighted with an interior hdri... maybe the result's a little too darkThis one is lighted with a sun system... so the screen brightness is way too low... just as it would be in real life on a very sunny day...


                                        And this is the sketchup file. Enjoy! I took the measurements from my own i-phone, and scaled everything by a factor 10. Though I didn't put in all the details...

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                                        • W Offline
                                          wahoowetzel
                                          last edited by

                                          Thanks Al,

                                          I'm using the new Vray for Sketchup but I think I might be able to adapt some of your method to accomplish what I'm after.

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                                          • marked001M Offline
                                            marked001
                                            last edited by

                                            here's an old,noisy Maxwell rendering..

                                            *edit... reading is fundamental.. LCD screen...whoops, sorry.

                                            http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/3710/tv1by9.jpg

                                            http://www.revision21vis.com

                                            instagram: revi21on

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