Modelling without plugins

urgen · 30 Jun 2009, 05:51

Amazing lesson in SU5(Sergey Sedyhin) .... Without plugins!
http://www.render.ru/books/show_book.php?book_id=808

pilou · 30 Jun 2009, 08:08

Beauty of the simplicity

Gaieus · 30 Jun 2009, 20:29

Wonderful, really. And that render in Bryce at the end?

solo · 30 Jun 2009, 20:45

Very cool, but gimme drugs/plugins baby! as that way I can get it done in a fraction of the time, and maybe even add more complicated geometry.

If you got them flaunt them, but I'm sure at the time of this model they were not available, just imagine what he could now achieve with them..

Rich O Brien · 30 Jun 2009, 20:55

Great Link and super use of native tools.

I agree with Solo (about plugins not drugs!!)

Khai · 1 Jul 2009, 01:16

hmm

interesting.

I can't get steps 8/9/10 to work properly.. see how he's got that lovely rounded panel on the side?
I can't get that clean curve he's getting.

Chris Fullmer · 1 Jul 2009, 05:42

Here's a video for those steps.

[flash=944,759:1xmzut9c]http://chrisfullmer.com/chrisfullmer/forums/russian_tut_steps_8_9.swf[/flash:1xmzut9c]

Chris

Khai · 1 Jul 2009, 05:48

damn...

thanks Chris, that was a real help

I see where I was going wrong now.. not getting the pink arcs... it's so simple once you see how it's done..

Chris Fullmer · 1 Jul 2009, 05:51

Awesome, glad it helped!

Chris

BTW, that was a lightning fast response. I posted it, then reloaded the page, then I watched the full video because I realized I had not watched it yet (to check for errors, or missing sound and stuff). Then I refreshed the page and you had already responded. Very fast indeed!

Khai · 1 Jul 2009, 06:02

lol

tis to hot to sleep here atm.. so I'm up playing in SU and lucked out checking the forum

I don't sit here hitting refresh.

honest!

Gaieus · 1 Jul 2009, 12:11

@unknownuser said:

No kidding. I think there is a danger for those who have just arrived on the SU scene. It is easy to skip the basics, jumping right in with the rubies before you understand the native tool set. I'm glad I got started when there were only a couple of rubies. I think I would be a confused old guy now if not.....ok..ok, I am a confused old guy....must be the wackie tobackie.

I totally agree with you, Bruce, on this. In fact, in the Newbie Forum, I try to avoid suggesting plugins as much as I can and try to get the beginners to understand how it can be done manually.

Most (and I'm not saying that all!) of the plugins would "only" automate procedures otherwise could be modelled with the native SU tools anyway so if someone doesn't understand what they are doing, will never really get the hang of SU.

Of course, with my above sentence, I don't want to lessen the glory of our plugin writers and I'm really grateful for those plugins but I'm also glad that I also learnt to use SU without much plugin use. Often though just out of interest, of course because I knew there was already a ruby for a certain workflow.

Edson · 5 Aug 2009, 23:05

in the light of this topic i think it could be a good initiative to put together a list of tutorials on how to model complex geometric shapes/objetcs with straight sketchup tools. i am sure there are many on the web: it would just be a matter of putting them together. what do you think about this?

simon le bon · 5 Aug 2009, 23:27

Dear Edson,

I agree with you.
What do you think of this: (I have bookmarked it for a long time. Nothing "genious" but a "personal way", a speed way, an easy way..)

Maison de Bord de Mer: Gaspard Vivien

simon

simon le bon · 5 Aug 2009, 23:29

When SketchUp makes me dream

Dear Gaieus,

you wrote to me some time ago:

@unknownuser said:

../a certain category we'd also like to start; "Case Studies". It would be something broader, not necessarily explaining all the steps technically speaking but we could present different uses of SketchUp perfectly.

Aren't we inside up this concept with this Sergei Sedukhina's tutorial !!?

As we know, every shape can be made from many various ways in SU. In an another word, each one can express his own personality and brains in making a drawing.
It's always for me a very revealing interest, not necessarily to studie a strictly HowTo but to see the proper "manner" a great user leads his drawing from stage to stage to the end.

I just have taken a great pleasure with this Sergei's perform. And I like very much that people like Chris which come back on a point and rework on it.. Awesome.

simon

Edson · 6 Aug 2009, 11:10

simon,

this is undoubtedly useful but i was also thinking in terms of shorter tuts on complex shapes that at first sight seem to be impossible to do with sketchup. as examples i refer to the one attached here and this one. these two examples show that it is a question of method to be able to model complex shapes.

Cabriole leg tutorial.skp

simon le bon · 6 Aug 2009, 13:47

Dear Edson,

(I had already studied this incredible Panton Chair tutorial )

@unknownuser said:

this is undoubtedly useful but i was also thinking in terms of shorter tuts on complex shapes that at first sight seem to be impossible to do with sketchup.

I was gone a little bit elswhere; sorry for misunderstood. What you say if I try to understand exactly what you mean is that SU users need graduated tuts relatives to their level of control.

For that also i agree with you.
But it is something already trying to exist inside SketchUcation: Tutorial section(something probably waiting a more strong promotion from the community to take off)
Also you are probably right in that what is missing there is the possibility to gather good things everywhere from the Web and agregate them in such a place.

simon

Pg09 · 6 Aug 2009, 14:08

@chris fullmer said:

Here's a video for those steps.

Chris

Chris, excellent movie, i didn't know that we can mirror objects with the scale tool - great stuff!
Also, watching you modeling and talking at that pace makes me jealous and dizzy at the same time!

Chris Fullmer · 6 Aug 2009, 16:27

Hehe, and before every movie I sit and tell myself over and over - "Talk slow, move slow, don't shake the mouse around, don't orbit the model non-stop" etc. So that is the slow and steady version of my modeling. In real time I get really shaky and zippy and I can't even stand to watch it in replay .

Glad it was helpful, sorry it made you sick

Chris

Chris Fullmer · 7 Aug 2009, 01:31

hehe, there is definitely lots of that too!

takesh h · 7 Aug 2009, 01:55

@edson said:

in the light of this topic i think it could be a good initiative to put together a list of tutorials on how to model complex geometric shapes/objetcs with straight sketchup tools.

Even better for new users might be, a series of tuts on how to model simple geometries (a cube, pyramid, sphere etc.) in 10 different ways.
By viewing how to model a pyramid in 10 different ways, a user can discover a lot underneath the simple GUI of SketchUp. Complex modeling is nothing but a bunch of simple modelings. If a user understands how to do simple things in various ways, I'm sure she/he can start thinking about complex things soon.