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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
      last edited by

      You could temporarily add another line between the arc's ends to form a face then scale the lot then erase the temporary line on completion...

      TIG

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        DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ
        last edited by

        hi tig. Yes, I thought the same, but does not work


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        • thomthomT Offline
          thomthom
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          Arcs and Curves applies constraints on transformations unless they are exploded.

          Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            So Explode them, Scale and then re-Weld into Curves ?

            TIG

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              DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ
              last edited by

              @thomthom said:

              Arcs and Curves applies constraints on transformations unless they are exploded.

              yes?
              is strange that all fredoscale tools work well with arc and polylines.
              no need to exploit the arcs and polylines

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              • fredo6F Offline
                fredo6
                last edited by

                @diego-rodriguez said:

                stretching with orientation of scaling box

                small error.
                does not work "stretching with orientation of scaling box", with arcs and polylines

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                possible, correct this error?

                Diego,

                As mentioned in the Doc, FredoScale does not stretch the SU curves. That's just a design choice, because SU does not stretch curves and I would have had to explode the curve, strech the edges and then reconstruct the curves (thios would have been destructive and probably not possible for an interactive visual deformation). It stretches normally if the curve if exploded.

                Fredo

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                  DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ
                  last edited by

                  thank you all for the explanation

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                  • fredo6F Offline
                    fredo6
                    last edited by

                    @diego-rodriguez said:

                    thank you all for the explanation

                    Stretch is no more than using the Move tool on the vertices of segment. You can do it manually and FredoScale just automates this process.

                    As you can notice, all SU Curves move as a whole whatever vertex or edge you select.

                    Fredo

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                      DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ
                      last edited by

                      if, extends what do you say.
                      although my initial question was related to can deform curves, non symmetrical.
                      But this work can be done manually. only if this work is automatic is more practical

                      thank you very much again

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                      • P Offline
                        pianosmalos
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                        Hi Fredo. As others, I am absolutely amazed about how powerful your tools is. However I found this problem (see attached pic) anytime I try to do a bend which is not coplanar to an existing component face.

                        In this basic case, I tried a bend using the plane behind the object as a bending plane, whereas I applied the origin onto a random point on the middle of the object's top surface. It always fails, no matter what the object is.

                        But I also realized that, if I apply the origin on a real point within the component (intersection point, point from an edge of the object), the tool works perfectly.

                        I post it here, in case you think this is a bug or just the way it works.

                        Thanks a lot, thumbs up for your great work! 👍 👍 👍


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                        • mitcorbM Offline
                          mitcorb
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                          If I may suggest: (probably not the problem)
                          Try scaling the geometry up x10, x100, or some other factor temporarily for the operation, then scaling down by the inverse factor. As you may already know, if the edge distances are sufficiently small, Sketchup/OpenGL cannot close faces, especially when it has to generate new logical edges on a distorted boundary.

                          Like I said, this may not be the problem, just something to rule out.

                          I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                          • hellnbakH Offline
                            hellnbak
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                            I've use Box Tapering before and it's performed wonderfully (as do all of your amazing plugins), but I'm having a problem now. I'm trying to taper an object, just move the face in a bit. Well, when I move the cursor in the direction I want, nothing happens, and then it snaps to .95. After that I can keep moving it in just as smoothly as you please, but I cannot get it to go anywhere between .95 and 1.00, if I try it just snaps back to 1.00. I've tried typing in the taper I want (somewhere around .98, although I can't be sure yet because I havent' been able to test it), but when I hit enter nothing happens. If I hit enter again it snaps back to 1.00. I've tried many, many times, no luck. Any help would be appreciated.


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                            "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                            • mitcorbM Offline
                              mitcorb
                              last edited by

                              In my recent experience at least with the Fredoscale tool, you can actually type in the specific desired factor eg after you come to rest on 0.95, let up on the mouse button and type in the specific size factor for example 0.98 and hit Enter. Be sure you type in the zero before the .98. Apparently the tool requires this literal input.
                              There may be some discussion in Fredo's pdf manual on this. I did not check.

                              Try the above and yell back if it works, so others can see.

                              I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                              • hellnbakH Offline
                                hellnbak
                                last edited by

                                That did it!!!!! 😍 I've been going nuts for almost 2 days trying to get it to work, and all I had to do was type in 0.98 instead of just .98 Such a small thing, such a big difference! I really appreciate you taking the time to reply, I had just about given up on hearing from anybody about this. Again, thanks!

                                "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                                • mitcorbM Offline
                                  mitcorb
                                  last edited by

                                  Glad to be of service.
                                  So many have helped me, or gifted me with amazing tools in this forum, I feel it is necessary for me to pay it forward.

                                  I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                                  • hellnbakH Offline
                                    hellnbak
                                    last edited by

                                    Your tip came just in the nick of time - I had a gun in one hand, a rusty razor blade in another hand and a samuri sword in the third (yeah, I spent some time around Chernobyl 😉 ). I owe you a Big Mac. Or a Porsche. Whichever you prefer (although the Big Mac does require less maintenance, gets better mileage and costs a lot less to insure) 😆 .

                                    "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                                    • mitcorbM Offline
                                      mitcorb
                                      last edited by

                                      Yeah, but the investment all turns to poo.

                                      Edit: And if you gave me a Porsche, I'd just sell it. Either my kids would destroy it, or the maintenance, insurance and worry about dings would destroy me. 💚

                                      I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                                      • hellnbakH Offline
                                        hellnbak
                                        last edited by

                                        Well, I could give you a Porsche that's already had the crap beat out of it. Or, I could just toast you at your next wedding 😆

                                        "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                                        • fredo6F Offline
                                          fredo6
                                          last edited by

                                          @mitcorb said:

                                          In my recent experience at least with the Fredoscale tool, you can actually type in the specific desired factor eg after you come to rest on 0.95, let up on the mouse button and type in the specific size factor for example 0.98 and hit Enter. Be sure you type in the zero before the .98. Apparently the tool requires this literal input.
                                          There may be some discussion in Fredo's pdf manual on this. I did not check.

                                          Try the above and yell back if it works, so others can see.

                                          Mitcorb,

                                          Thanks very much.
                                          I fixed the issue and FredoScale (like other plugins) will now accept notation ".98" as equivalent to "0.98". This will also work in formulas (like ".98 + .97")
                                          This will go in a next version of LibFredo6

                                          Fred

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                                          • mitcorbM Offline
                                            mitcorb
                                            last edited by

                                            @Fredo: As I said to hellnbak: "Glad to be of service" (in gratitude for your noble gifts to this community).

                                            I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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