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    • X 離線
      xrok1
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      @unknownuser said:

      @paulside said:

      Come on, Own up, how many of us have tried to orbit a jpg ! 🤣

      Not being able to orbit in JPGS only illustrates their limitions. If we were an advanced society at all we would be able to this. 💚

      and why do image files need to be rectangular?? it would eliminate the need for transparency if images could be irregular shapes, maybe even having holes in them. ☀

      “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

      http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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      • M 離線
        museummaker
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        Trying to orbit jpegs is just too funny. I do it all time.

        I liken it to a nautical term "sea legs" if your on a boat too long you get used to moving with the rock of the ship and when you come aground you feel funy and walk like you had too much to drink. Trying to compensate for something that is not there.

        When you try and orbit do you turn your head to the side and hope for it to work?

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        • RayOchoaR 離線
          RayOchoa
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          @gaieus said:

          @thomthom said:

          ...
          Ever tried to undo a wrong stroke with the pen..? 😳

          Or with a girlfriend? 😒

          🤣 I never need an UNDO button 😆 😲

          CaR DeSiGnS bY mE
          http://ray-ochoa.com

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          • GaieusG 離線
            Gaieus
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            @rayochoa said:

            🤣 I never need an UNDO button 😆 😲

            At YOUR age I didn't need any either. 😒

            Gai...

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            • broomstickB 離線
              broomstick
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              @xrok1 said:

              and why do image files need to be rectangular?? it would eliminate the need for transparency if images could be irregular shapes, maybe even having holes in them. ☀

              I don't understand this.. Can't you just apply an image to a face, and the edit that face?

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              • thomthomT 離線
                thomthom
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                @gaieus said:

                @thomthom said:

                ...
                Ever tried to undo a wrong stroke with the pen..? 😳

                Or with a girlfriend? 😒

                🤣

                Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                • thomthomT 離線
                  thomthom
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                  @chris fullmer said:

                  @daniel said:

                  My second moment was embarrassing. I gave a short seminar to the local community design center on using sketchup, and I was explaining how SU will not cast shadows below the point of origin (default ground plane), and open a model to illustrate it, only to discover that SU had apparently fixed that (with version 7?).

                  Version 6 also let you cast shadows below the ground plane. At least the copy I'm running does?

                  Chris

                  Same here. Though, you do have the setting in the Shadows Window "On ground" which makes SU cast a shadow on the origin plane. But shadows still appear below. Could be a graphic card driver issue.

                  Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                  • pilouP 離線
                    pilou
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                    Duhduh by missing to read the Documentation 😒


                    replace.jpg

                    Frenchy Pilou
                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                    My Little site :)

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                    • GaieusG 離線
                      Gaieus
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                      @thomthom said:

                      Same here. Though, you do have the setting in the Shadows Window "On ground" which makes SU cast a shadow on the origin plane. But shadows still appear below. Could be a graphic card driver issue.

                      Well, then I am now kind of confused. I definitely remember a certain issue when the modeller put the model (partly) under the ground plane and it was a long topic until we solved the problem that the shadows weren't cat properly.

                      If I have a look now, it's easy:

                      • turn off shadows on ground
                      • make a big,horizontal face below
                      • turn on shadows on faces
                        Now why didn't this work back then? To tell the truth, I'm not experienced in this issue because I regularly build my structures above the ground level...

                      Gai...

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                      • thomthomT 離線
                        thomthom
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                        I can't tell for sure either. I usually keep above ground as well. And I started using SU during version 6.4, so perhaps it was an issue earlier...

                        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                        • daleD 離線
                          dale
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                          My biggest Duh's always come when switching between Acad or Vectorworks to SketchUp (either direction) but mostly I am constantly looking for the tape measure in the cad programs.

                          Another Duh is finding that by holding the spacebar down you can control the zoom in so you don't zip past the object your zooming to.

                          However I do find myself in situations where I am trying to zoom into the back side of something I'm modeling trying to peer over it on the computer, as if I was looking over a fence.

                          Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                          • pilouP 離線
                            pilou
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                            Duhduh line 💚
                            As a line can't be directly a component 😒
                            line.jpg

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                            • GaieusG 離線
                              Gaieus
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                              The funny thing is that it CAN be made a component. In fact, there are four ways to make a component (after you select the geometry):

                              1. with the make component button in the Principal toolbar;
                              2. from the Make component command from the Edit menu;
                              3. through a shortcut (the default is G);
                              4. finally from the context (right click) menu.
                                Now with a single line entity, only this latter (#4) doesn't work - all the three above (#1-3) do.

                              I would call it "major inconsistency"

                              Gai...

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                              • david_hD 離線
                                david_h
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                                That begs the larger question. Why would you want to make a single line a component? 💚

                                If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                                • GaieusG 離線
                                  Gaieus
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                                  How about creating only "dummy" or "proxy" components?

                                  The problem dosn't necessarily lie only here. The same goes with groups (only that there are only two ways of making them) and nowadays with SU autobreaking overlapping lines, you may wish to separate even single lines, too.

                                  Also, any selection that only contains a single entity (not only a line) cannot be made a component (or group) this way. If you select a sphere (with a bounding box), there's a single "surface" selected only and you right click to turn it into a group/component in vain.

                                  BUT if you select the sphere by triple clicking on it,it will autoselect and highlight the softened edges bounding the facets as well and there you go; you are now able to make a group/component. Note that the resulting group/component will be the same in either way you select them.

                                  Gai...

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                                  • david_hD 離線
                                    david_h
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                                    proxies occured to me right after I posted this so . . .I stand corrected sir. 😳

                                    another D"UH moment for me.

                                    If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                                    • N 離線
                                      NewOne
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                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      That begs the larger question. Why would you want to make a single line a component? 💚

                                      I will answer you to this the best I can:
                                      Let's say I want to render some big repetitive scene (50000 dummy dolls, let-s say). Sketchup doesn't support so many polygons. So I will make some 2d representation of them and the high-quality component will be replaced when exporting for render (i use maxwellrender and it supports proxy_objects) ... but SketchUp is still unresponsive 😕 So what I choose? LINES !! YES 😄 if 50000 2d people are too many, 50000 lines are ok. And all that lines must be instances of the same component.
                                      So... that's why you would make a line component.

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                                      • pilouP 離線
                                        pilou
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                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        Now with a single line entity, only this latter (#4) doesn't work - all the three above (#1-3) do.

                                        I only use the right click 😉
                                        That is the real big Duhduh of my day 😆

                                        Frenchy Pilou
                                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                        My Little site :)

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                                        • thomthomT 離線
                                          thomthom
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                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          Now with a single line entity, only this latter (#4) doesn't work - all the three above (#1-3) do.

                                          I only use the right click 😉
                                          That is the real big Duhduh of my day 😆

                                          Ditto Duh! Never occurred to me the behaviour would be inconsistent depending on where in the UI you looked.

                                          Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                          • GaieusG 離線
                                            Gaieus
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                                            Well, gentlemen, this is the grand "Duh" topic!
                                            We are all "duh'hing" 🤣

                                            Gai...

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