Joint Push Pull Classic (Old version) - v2.2a - 26 Apr 17

Takashi_Komuro

What advantages and functions of the Joint Push Pull ?

TIG

What advantages and functions of the Joint Push Pull ?
Read the guidance notes on the first page of this thread, there is even a help-pdf file you can download...
There are also examples throughout the thread...
Put simply, by using JPP you can 'extrude' preselected facets that form a surface so they have a 'thickness', in ways that are not possible using the native PushPull tools...

pilou

@unknownuser said:

What advantages and functions of the Joint Push Pull ?

The only automatic easy way to make thickness!

jgb

@takashi_komuro said:

What advantages and functions of the Joint Push Pull ?

The major advantage of JPP over SU native Push/Pull is that where SU PP only works on individual flat faces, JPP works on combined curved surfaces made up from many flat faces.

There are 3 versions of JPP, where the thickening occurs perpendicular to the selected surface, or you can set an angle to the direction of thickening. The third is a variation of SU's PP, which I never use so no comment on its functionality.

A few tips to consider before using JPP.

Make sure you do an "Orient Faces" before using the tool.
IMHO that should be a default function within JPP.
Turn ON hidden lines only if you want to do a selection of faces on a surface.
Turn OFF hidden lines if you want to do the total surface.
Alternatively, turn ON hidden lines and make the perimeter of the selected faces soft/smooth lines SOFT. That will define a surface in one selection when Hidden Lines are OFF.
When JPP does its thing, check the corners. Most of the lines JPP creates along the thickness are soft/smooth, and the sharp corners may not be hard, if desired. Just <Shift-CTRL-Delete> those lines to make them hard.
Attempting to JPP to a thickness in relation to some object in the drawing may not give you the desired thickness when done.
The better way is to JPP beyond the desired thickness, INSPECT the shape for integrity (purple lines), then type to the VCB the exact thickness dimension desired, BEFORE you double click (or <Enter> twice).

Mra

This tool crashes heaps with 2013.

Repro steps:

Create square.
Group it
Go into group
Extrude it
Exit group = crash.

thomthom

Do you have plugins installed? Tried disabling them temporarily to see if it might be one of them causing it?

TIG

Sounds like some other script like Vray-beta or one of the half-baked new BIM tools is loading... and that is crashing SketchUp when this JPP does a legitimate operation.
It's usually from messing with native class/methods or having poorly constructed EntitiesObservers etc that kick in during other tools legit operations and cause the crash.
If you do find the culprit script then please let us know AND tell that scripts author about it too, so that they might then try to fix it...

Mra

@tig said:

Sounds like some other script like Vray-beta or one of the half-baked new BIM tools is loading... and that is crashing SketchUp when this JPP does a legitimate operation.
It's usually from messing with native class/methods or having poorly constructed EntitiesObservers etc that kick in during other tools legit operations and cause the crash.
If you do find the culprit script then please let us know AND tell that scripts author about it too, so that they might then try to fix it...

You're a sharp man. Yes, I am apart of the V-Ray beta. Pretty sure you're right about it too.

Mra

Confirmed: It is V-Ray, I'll let them know.

bulba

i've downloaded this plugin months ago and forgot to say thanks..
THANKS A LOT Fredo
been using this regularly

rempeyeks

i've got error message here.
is that joint push pull dont work in sketchup 2013?

TIG

Have you properly installed ALL of the latest versions of Fredo's tools AND LibFredo...
He upgraded his Lib and several of his tools to work with v2013...

TIG

A reprise of the tool's help...

The footprint in the SketchUp Plugins Directory must be:

jointpushpull.rb
LibTraductor.rb
JPP_Dir_17 folder [containing other files]

On Mac for v8 the SU plugin directory should be:

Macintosh HD/Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp 8/SketchUp/plugins

Note: once installed, you can safely delete any older JPP_Dir_xx folders

CAUTION:
NEVER rename or move files from their folders.
If you are unsure of your unzip operation, do it in a neutral folder and check that you reconstruct the right footprint.
Then transfer the folders and files to the SketchUp Plugin Directory.

Have you done all of this ?
Have you restarted SketchUp ?
Did you look in the xxxx menu ?

Since you say you have v8, then why not get the latest RBZ version from the SCF PluginStore then use the Preferences > Extensions > Install from Archive, button [v8M2 or newer] to automate it all, so you don't make mistakes...
You could even get the 'SketchUcation Plugin Store' toolset which allows you tp browse and AutoInstall hundreds of plugins with just a button-click from within SketchUp itself...
See the Resources menu items above...

kolya

i do not get it how can i download those plugins from this site!? can somebody pls help me!

TIG

@nikola

Most Plugin's threads have download-able files in their first post - this particular tool has extensive explanations on how to install its tools.

Please also note that many of Fredo's and thomthom's tools [and afew others] need a supporting Library downloading/installing - it is clearly explained in their postsm so remember to get that too...

However, the simplest way to get most of the Plugins available from SCF is to use the PluginStore [accessed off the Resources menu above], or why not install the Plugin Store Toolset that let's you AutoInstall them...

Please see this recent post for some more info, links etc... http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=488126#p488126

alexgava

thanks, my dear friend...

nice tool ..

still i dont know use it, but is a nice tool

Jean-Franco

If you visit the first page of this post, you will find the links for download and also a PDF tutorial explaining how to use it.
Have you seen it ?

porter159

Is there a version of this that works for sketchup 2013? It is one of my favorite tools that used very often, but I cant find a 2013 version or switch the file over from sketchup 8. I tried the "Shell" plugin that works in the same manor, but it doesnt work quite as easily or affectively as JPP. Please help? A version for 2013 that works just like the one for sketchup 8 would be FANTASTIC!!!

Box

To answer your question in both threads, yes it does work in SU2013.
Make sure you have installed the latest version of it and libfredo.

Dave R

@porter159 said:

A version for 2013 that works just like the one for sketchup 8 would be FANTASTIC!!!

The best place to start is the first post in the thread. You can download the current version there and as Box wrote, get the current version of LibFredo6, too. Better yet, install the Sketchucation Plugin Store tool and auto install Joint Push/Pull.

If you are using SU 2013, please update your profile. It'll help in the future when you need help.