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  • A Offline
    alpro
    last edited by 27 Feb 2008, 21:02

    I need to know how to take my intertwined faces and form a perfect circle or wrap them around my circle so that I could do an intersect and erase any unwanted geometry. I also want the intertwined faces to have a thickness so I'm guessing I should use push/pull before following any other steps? Thanks.

    Mike


    Untitled6.jpg

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      Gaieus
      last edited by 28 Feb 2008, 07:22

      Hi Mike,

      I'm not sure that I understand what exactly you want to accomplish. Could you also attach an skp file?

      Gai...

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        alpro
        last edited by 28 Feb 2008, 11:59

        Gaieus, I hope this explains it better. I will also post the skp if needed but all it is, is exactly what you see, a shape that I want to turn into a circle. Thanks.

        Mike


        Untitled7.jpg

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          Gaieus
          last edited by 28 Feb 2008, 12:05

          The problem is that you cannot just wrap geometry around anything in SU (like you can with images). What I'd do is to model a piece of that geometry on the face of just one segment of the cylinder (but in a way that the pieces meet) and then copy/rotate that around as many times as you created the cylinder from.

          Still not an easy task and I1m not sure about the result.

          Gai...

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            alpro
            last edited by 28 Feb 2008, 12:23

            Thanks Gaieus, I was hoping someone had a method or trick to simplify this a little.

            Mike

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              Dave R
              last edited by 28 Feb 2008, 12:28

              Mike, if you were to do what you want, you'd end up with a massive file. I would work out one segment of the intertwined "wires" on a portion of a cylinder of the proper radius. Then I would it a component and make a radial array of it. Hide the end line segments and it'll look pretty good.

              If you want to send me the model you have there, I'll make a demo for you.

              Dave

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                alpro
                last edited by 28 Feb 2008, 13:25

                Thanks Dave, I really appreciate it. This is only the first stage of this, I am definitely gonna have lots more questions. I have posted the skp.


                Debs ring.skp

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                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by 28 Feb 2008, 13:41

                  Here's a Tutorial on doing it one way...


                  IntertwiningRing.skp

                  TIG

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                    Dave R
                    last edited by 28 Feb 2008, 14:47

                    Thanks TIG. You beat me to it.

                    Mike, do you still want me to do that for you?

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                      GreyHead
                      last edited by 28 Feb 2008, 15:44

                      Here's an example - the method is pretty much the same as Dave R's except that I intersected one link of the chain with the plain band to get curved surfaces. Looking at it the band is a perhaps a bit thick.

                      Bob

                      debs ring.jpg


                      Debs ring 2.skp

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                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by 28 Feb 2008, 16:00

                        In a similar vein here's my tutorial version but with a rectangular extrusion rather than a tube...


                        IntertwiningRing[Flat].jpg

                        TIG

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                          solo
                          last edited by 28 Feb 2008, 16:22

                          Made one ring and copied an array using the protractor multiple paste method.


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                            boofredlay
                            last edited by 28 Feb 2008, 18:03

                            It seems everybody wanted a piece of this one...
                            Here is my tutorial.
                            Ring.skp


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                            Ring2.jpg

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                              alpro
                              last edited by 28 Feb 2008, 18:08

                              Thanks for all the input guys, I'm sure that I'm gonna have some more questions as I continue.

                              Mike

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                                jeff hammond
                                last edited by 28 Feb 2008, 18:11

                                just in case it's meant to be braid-like.... i guessed a certain reference point which was close but not totally right.. if i have to do it again, i'll be able to fix that..


                                ring.jpg

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                                  alpro
                                  last edited by 28 Feb 2008, 18:15

                                  Yes Jeff, that's exactly what I was looking for, I guess I should of said braided instead of intertwined. I really appreciate everyone's help on this.

                                  Mike

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                                    jeff hammond
                                    last edited by 28 Feb 2008, 18:21

                                    i don't have time for a tut right now but i can show you how i did it later.. in the mean time, it looks like a lot of people are into trying this shape so maybe someone else can do it..

                                    for now, here's the skp of my version..


                                    ring.skp

                                    dotdotdot

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                                      jeff hammond
                                      last edited by 29 Feb 2008, 02:27

                                      ok, so i figured out how to draw it more to my liking but doing a tutorial for this thing might be a little bit much.. it would be about 25 scenes with weird to describe curve manipulations in there.. if someone really wants to see a step-by-step, i'll do it but i'm going to hold off for now.. it will probably take ~2hrs to put together..

                                      it's sort of similar to TIG's method except i used two circles to begin with instead of one (one inside of the other).. i then alternate between the two circles which allows for the weaving..

                                      here's the fixed version skp..


                                      ring2.skp

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                                        TIG Moderator
                                        last edited by 29 Feb 2008, 08:23

                                        With our combined IQ well in excess of 'genius' we have got some great ideas here.

                                        TIG

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                                          Alan Fraser
                                          last edited by 29 Feb 2008, 09:12

                                          I haven't had time to go through all of these, but it seems that you might also be able to do it by producing a ring of braid that is only skin-thick, then using Vector PP on it. Did anyone try it that way?

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