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    Rich O Brien Moderator
    last edited by 15 Jan 2022, 20:42

    I would lean towards Curviloft and SUbD to arrive at the final form...

    pbacot-twisted-shelf.skp

    https://i.imgur.com/mnkcK17.png

    To create the initial rails to loft I did use Vertex Tools with a soft falloff to pinch the rails as needed...

    https://i.imgur.com/c6VqSxf.png

    ...making the curved portions had identical segments counts so topology remained even.

    With some UV mapping and 2 levels of subdivision you get somewhat close.

    https://i.imgur.com/H4SR6Zw.png

    Dave's version is yum!

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      Dave R
      last edited by 15 Jan 2022, 20:50

      @rich o brien said:

      Dave's version is yum!

      Not as yummy as yours, though.

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        pilou
        last edited by 16 Jan 2022, 01:56

        FredoScale 2.0 itself is not sufficient : Slicer + Twist + Bend ? (with little sections resize)

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          pbacot
          last edited by 16 Jan 2022, 04:11

          @pilou said:

          FredoScale 2.0 itself is not sufficient : Slicer + Twist + Bend ? (with little sections resize)

          I tried a lot with Fredoscale. I couldn't figure out how to make it work. Then I turned to drawing rails in 3d.

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            pbacot
            last edited by 16 Jan 2022, 04:51

            @rich o brien said:

            I would lean towards Curviloft and SUbD to arrive at the final form...

            Thanks Rich. So it seems you start with a rough profile, easier to work out, Curviloft that. How do you get the extra edges around the border? Then you texture it, how?

            I tried Artisan to smooth your model, and it did pretty well but took the texture off . With Artisan Brush I got the texture back on, and it looks OK (on the top of the model anyway--back is a mess, but you can't see it).

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              Rich O Brien Moderator
              last edited by 16 Jan 2022, 14:59

              @pbacot said:

              Thanks Rich. So it seems you start with a rough profile, easier to work out, Curviloft that. How do you get the extra edges around the border?

              Yes, CurviLoft > LoftbySpline with segments set to 1 for the main top face...

              https://i.imgur.com/DTGfaPR.png

              Next is JointPushPull to thicken and then I use QFT > Select Ring to select top ring and QFT > Connect Edges with the following for Segments/Pinch...

              https://i.imgur.com/P1OCdUV.png

              ...to add holding edges. Repeat this for the shelf edge...

              https://i.imgur.com/FClIvOh.png

              Run SUbD at 2 levels to test form...

              https://i.imgur.com/xzEOUz6.png

              @pbacot said:

              Then you texture it, how?

              When I'm happy with the form I return to the proxy and add UV seams and UV unwrap with WrapR...

              https://i.imgur.com/bX5Onlm.png

              ...and import the UVs back the SketchUp.

              https://i.imgur.com/oJOS50i.png

              You can now replace the checker texture with a seamless wood image or send the mesh the Substance Painter to texture in there.

              https://i.imgur.com/qQOOS41.png

              As a side note, SUbD has support for WrapR attributes and likewise WrapR supports SUbD attritbutes so running a subdivision on the proxy will maintain UVs. πŸ‘

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                pbacot
                last edited by 16 Jan 2022, 18:22

                Excellent!

                I also try to do some things with QFT but I really know how to use it effectively. I don't know of any tutorials and the tool tips don't show for it, on my system at least.

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                  Rich O Brien Moderator
                  last edited by 16 Jan 2022, 18:52

                  @pbacot said:

                  I also try to do some things with QFT but I really know how to use it effectively. I don't know of any tutorials and the tool tips don't show for it, on my system at least.

                  It's a particular workflow you adopt over time. To me its my most used extension for SketchUp. I forgot to mention it because I've so many functions as shortcuts I tend to forget its not in vanilla SU.

                  Hope that info helps you make this model yourself at some point. It's a really good case study for anyone interested in organic form etc.

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                    pilou
                    last edited by 16 Jan 2022, 19:22

                    Sorry what is "QFT" ? 😳

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                      pbacot
                      last edited by 16 Jan 2022, 19:40

                      @rich o brien said:

                      Hope that info helps you make this model yourself at some point. It's a really good case study for anyone interested in organic form etc.

                      Yes I got a lot of good ideas from this!. I'd love to learn more about QFT somehow.

                      I also enjoyed using Bezier Surface and learned a lot about it--though I'm still at trial and error level with it. I used your video for pointers!

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                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by 16 Jan 2022, 19:41

                        @Pilou

                        QFT == Quad Face Tools

                        TIG

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                          HornOxx
                          last edited by 17 Jan 2022, 05:50

                          πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘ A great post overall and a beautiful and manageable model work on top of that!
                          I'd have been probably "dotting" between all the approaches shown here and probably would have tried them all side by side to see what came out.
                          Dave's suggestion with TIG's Extrude Edges by Rails is unknown to me so far - so I'll look at that tool first.

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                            pilou
                            last edited by 17 Jan 2022, 11:41

                            Ok for the QFT ! 😳

                            Other direction πŸ˜„
                            Maybe ShapeBender or FlowiFy can be used! πŸ˜‰

                            https://images2.imgbox.com/72/56/aasXdMuH_o.gif

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                              Rich O Brien Moderator
                              last edited by 17 Jan 2022, 11:44

                              C'est magnifique!

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