Anyone Upgrading to 2020?

kaas · 29 Jan 2020, 14:11

@HornOxx you're missing the 'tag' - I like the font though

Sichtbarkeitseigenschaftenkenzeichnungskontrollemarkierung

Dave R · 29 Jan 2020, 14:44

TIG · 29 Jan 2020, 14:50

I wanted to rename 'Layer' to 'Tig' rather than to 'Tag'... but there were not many supporters !

Although 'Label' came nearer !

Dave R · 29 Jan 2020, 14:56

@ken said:

I printed out the LayOut Quick Reference Card. I noticed a series of menu icons in the Arrange column and other selections that I like. However, they don't appear in Sketchup. I was just wondering why these are not native plugins for Sketchup. Yes, I know they are different programs, but most of the plugins to me would be a welcome addition to Sketchup.

What is it in the Arrange menu that you want to see in SketchUp? Most of the entries in the Arrange menu are based on the fact that LO is a 2D thing and there's a defined paper space. They wouldn't make much sense in a 3D space.

@ken said:

Dave as for the plugin that I un-installed was Fabber. A plugin to make flat layouts of parts for a CNC machine. The plugin manager could not uninstall the plugin, so I went to Revo Uninstall program. I guess I didn't look hard enough to see exactly what it was unstalling. I got back most of the plugins, but in Layout, but I lost all the Layout templates.

Going to be more careful.

Thanks in Advance

So you didn't just uninstall Fabber. Uninstalling SketchUp and LayOut should remove any OEM LO templates but should not touch your custom LO templates unless you put them in the same directory as the OEM templates. Proper re-installation of SketchUp and LayOut should restore the OEM templates. If your custom LO templates are stored somewhere other than the normal location, you might need to point LO to look at them. The normal location for user-created templates is in User/App Data as below.

I always copy my templates to the Templates folder for the version. I do this for both SketchUp and LayOut.

HornOxx · 29 Jan 2020, 15:46

@dave r said:

...and probably even longer in German.
which is true and since we love to assemble new (unpronounceable even to us!) words from existing ones, we often create word monsters like the fun proposal below and btw - one more reason to only allow English installations on my and our machines...

HornOxx · 29 Jan 2020, 15:52

@kaas said:

@HornOxx you're missing the 'tag' - I like the font though
Sichtbarkeitseigenschaftenkenzeichnungskontrollemarkierung

so great and wow - your´s is much much better and the font, hmm, I couldn´t resist playing with the cliché here

HornOxx · 29 Jan 2020, 15:56

@tig said:

I wanted to rename 'Layer' to 'Tig' rather than to 'Tag'... but there were not many supporters !...
Tig, you got my vote !!!

andybot · 29 Jan 2020, 16:12

Exciting Seems like SU is almost caught up to FormZ circa 2000 with the ability to hide objects. So glad I didn't renew my maintenance after 2017. Layers = Tags... I can't even.

Anyone want to guess which version of ACAD LT I'm still using?

faust07 · 29 Jan 2020, 16:29

Oder wie der Sachse sagt: "Dig, Dag und Digedag"...
(Cover of the first issue of a comic magazine from the 1950s of the former GDR)

david_h · 29 Jan 2020, 17:50

@andybot said:

Exciting Seems like SU is almost caught up to FormZ circa 2000 with the ability to hide objects. So glad I didn't renew my maintenance after 2017. Layers = Tags... I can't even.

Anyone want to guess which version of ACAD LT I'm still using?

IT seems that from the release email I just got that visibilty and nomenclature are about the only major changes. correct? One thing that I have asked for since v.3 (!) yes i have been around that long! is when working in a group or component with nested groups, etc is the abilty to hide or reveal only the next object up in the nested tree. Maybe the new outliner will allow for this. I dunno. I have never really gotten in to OL because of that so maybe this will help.

Gotta check it out.

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DentalEZ · 29 Jan 2020, 18:50

This is a plug that I’ve used for a while now that uses the word “Layers” called “Make Name Group”. It’s a great little plug in that does what it says, I can name it and place the items on any layer I have in my drawing. Not sure who’s the author but I hope they updated it.

My other question is with the outliner. I use this all the time to name all my object from the default name so I can find things easier. But as I found out the hard way V-Ray does not like (Nor Recommend) you have the outliner panels open when using their plug-ins. Saving a drawings can take a very long time when I forget to close it.

Same with Scatter it does not like the outliner or the components panel open. Has or will these issues be resolved with these vendors do we know?

TIG · 29 Jan 2020, 18:57

The purely visual renaming of 'Layers' into 'Tags' should work seamlessly in most cases...
Obviously the specific plugin you referred to should consider replace 'Layer' with 'Tag' in its dialog - if the SketchUp version is >= 20 ...
But it should still work - 'below the hood' some checks might fail - like 'layer-name' if the default 'Layer0' has been renamed and accessed directly through the API...

We need feedback...

DentalEZ · 29 Jan 2020, 19:07

Like most people I am to busy right now to do the upgrade for our company and i want to play with it before i do it there. I'll have to play with it over the weekend at home on my own version of SKU, but i'll let you know what happens.

I should be able to work with both 2019 and 2020, Right?

Dave R · 29 Jan 2020, 20:00

@dentalez said:

This is a plug that I’ve used for a while now that uses the word “Layers” called “Make Name Group”. It’s a great little plug in that does what it says, I can name it and place the items on any layer I have in my drawing. Not sure who’s the author but I hope they updated it.

My other question is with the outliner.

I don't see a first question. If it's about the dialog box from the extension displaying the word "Layer", you might be able to edit the extension to say "Tag" but the author should do that. It really makes no difference, though, as long as you know.

@unknownuser said:

and place the items on any layer I have in my drawing.

You don't put objects on layers. Layers, not Tags, get assigned to components and groups.

@dentalez said:

Has or will these issues be resolved with these vendors do we know?

I expect the vendors will need to deal with it.

Glenn at home · 29 Jan 2020, 20:11

@dentalez said:

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I should be able to work with both 2019 and 2020, Right?

My 19 and 20 are working side by side.

DentalEZ · 29 Jan 2020, 20:37

@unknownuser said:

I don't see a first question

Guess I need to reword it, but yes the 1st question is about this plugin i am hoping that the author sees this responds about upgrading it.

@unknownuser said:

I expect the vendors will need to deal with it.

Yes, I am hoping for a response from the community on these issues also. maybe someone has heard something or will.

ken · 29 Jan 2020, 23:42

I have the program Toolbars from Jim Foltz. The last two Sketchup updates, somehow I got it to work, however, with this version of Sketchup I haven't been able to get it to work.

Below is an image of the four toolbars I created. I really would like someone to show or tell me how to get these options again.

I think but not sure that Jim hasn't done any coding for some time. Making my own set of commands was very helpful.

Dave R · 30 Jan 2020, 00:29

I don't have that extension from Jim and I don't believe it's available anymore so I can't help you. It's entirely possible it won't work in SU2020 but I can't test it to tell you.

juju · 30 Jan 2020, 06:03

@ken said:

I have the program Toolbars from Jim Foltz. The last two Sketchup updates, somehow I got it to work, however, with this version of Sketchup I haven't been able to get it to work.

Below is an image of the four toolbars I created. I really would like someone to show or tell me how to get these options again.

I think but not sure that Jim hasn't done any coding for some time. Making my own set of commands was very helpful.

Toolbar Editor will be able to do that, it's also listed as SU2020 compatible.

ken · 30 Jan 2020, 11:27

@juju said:

@ken said:

I have the program Toolbars from Jim Foltz. The last two Sketchup updates, somehow I got it to work, however, with this version of Sketchup I haven't been able to get it to work.

Below is an image of the four toolbars I created. I really would like someone to show or tell me how to get these options again.

I think but not sure that Jim hasn't done any coding for some time. Making my own set of commands was very helpful.

Toolbar Editor will be able to do that, it's also listed as SU2020 compatible.

Thank you for the information. However, the Toolbar editor only shows icons from pluins. Jim's program takes icons that Sketchup has but are not visible in the download. I know you can get copy/paste in place in the edit menu, but in my toolbar, I have two icons to do this operation. Also "shown hidden, hide and unhide" are also very useful.

And I have an icon called toggle Axis, hide unhide/unhide axis, another icon called display construction geometry.

Not sure why Sketchup has these icons hidden.

Darn, double darn.

Again thank you juju