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    • V Offline
      valerostudio
      last edited by

      The problem seems to be a persistent bug. I have had the issue on both Windows 7 and 10 machines now. Seems to be inconsistent which toolbars are doing it. Reset workspace is preferences does nothing... something seems broken.

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      • josephkim626J Offline
        josephkim626
        last edited by

        Had done clean uninstall as well as admin install. Uninstall all plugins. However, the settings still did not stick. If I just keep changing the settings, it seemed that it will eventually stick, but it was at least 1 or 2 tries before it did.

        One thing I have noticed is that "SketchUp Application" can run even after closing SketchUp. You can confirm that behavior in the "task manager".

        I do not know what is causing the application to hang even after closing, but I suppose user preferences are being saved at that point, and if you open another instance of SketchUp, you just won't see the settings saved.

        For the times I have seen it hang and run on task manager, I have waited for it to close, then opened SketchUp, settings were stuck.

        Hope this is at the least useful for some other users.

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        • D Offline
          dtrarch
          last edited by

          SU 2018 is just a problem and I have removed it.
          Big PIA ๐Ÿ‘ŽIMO
          Maybe the next upd will work more properly.
          2017 is good enough to stay with until a more stable version is ready.
          dtr

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          • ntxdaveN Offline
            ntxdave
            last edited by

            After going through the reinstall suggested by several on this thread I have to say that 2018 is running fine for me. In fact, here are some improvements I am seeing:

            • 2018 is loading much faster than 2017 and faster since doing the reinstall with the right-click "Run as Administrator" method.
            • I am finding that orbiting a complex model has much better performance than I saw with 2017. I no longer get the lag in performance.
            • I am seeing my models transfer to LayOut much faster than previous versions.
            • In 2017 I started seeing a degradation in dimension lines and text when viewing the model in LayOut. That seems to be fixed in 2018.

            Now for a silly question: Why does using the context menu to Run as Administrator generate a difference in the installation process versus just running the install when I am logged in with administrator privilege? Yes, I have verified that it does. I just would like some understanding of why. Is this true for all other software as well?

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              The complex privileges granted by using "Run as administrator" are higher than those which you get when you "Run" the installer when you are a normal 'user' with admin-powers, or are actually the administrator [not recommended].

              Dan Rathbun did do a detailed explanation a few months ago [which I can't find].
              He might chip in with a technical explanation...
              Suffice it to say that when installing ANY app from its installer's exe file in the newer versions of Windows, then the only safe way is to use "Run as administrator"...

              There is some bad advice on certain SketchUp help-pages regarding installation 'as admin'.
              The pages suggesting "Run as administrator" are the right way to do it.

              The weird issues that an incorrect installation can throw up are unpredictable...
              So it's just best to just avoid them in the first place...

              TIG

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              • ntxdaveN Offline
                ntxdave
                last edited by

                Thanks for the feedback TIG. I will follow that "rule" from now on with all software. ๐Ÿ‘

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                • R Offline
                  rogalxxx
                  last edited by

                  same issue here. anyone reported this to Trimble?

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                  • sketch3d.deS Offline
                    sketch3d.de
                    last edited by

                    @rogalxxx said:

                    anyone reported this to Trimble?

                    already reported, bug # SU-0388.

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                    • V Offline
                      valerostudio
                      last edited by

                      I am having huge problems w 2018. Crashes, lag, performance, Vray crashes and this toolbar thing. I have reported multiple times, sent bug reports, and spoke with them directly. Better wait for a M1 release if you haven't committed to it yet.

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                      • Dave RD Offline
                        Dave R
                        last edited by

                        @valerostudio said:

                        I am having huge problems w 2018.

                        Did you install SketchUp correctly using Run as administrator from the installer's context menu? Or did you just double click on it to get it to run?

                        My experience with SU2018 is that it has been very stable. No crashes at all on any of the four different computers I use it on.

                        Etaoin Shrdlu

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                        • B Offline
                          boothy
                          last edited by

                          Update:08\12\17

                          Chaos have emailed me to say that there is a problem with Vray closing correctly in SU18 which is affecting the toolbar position and they are currently looking towards a fix.

                          Best wishes

                          Boothy

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                          • Dave RD Offline
                            Dave R
                            last edited by

                            Thank you for posting that update.

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                            • J Offline
                              jonboyuk
                              last edited by

                              I too have the same issue. Vray toolbars won't stick, but nor will Laubwerk or Skatter! Maybe all these guys need reports (thanks to those who already reported it to Chaosgroup). Does anyone else have it with Laubwerk/Skatter?

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                              • P Offline
                                PeterChaushev
                                last edited by

                                Hello everyone,

                                If you're still having problems with the V-Ray toolbars getting their positions reset every time SketchUp is started, please send a short email at support@chaosgroup.com requesting a custom build which we hope fixes the "V-Ray toolbar issue". This is a temporary solution until v3.60.02 is released.

                                As @boothy mentioned, we initially suspected this was caused by V-Ray not closing properly. It turns out, however, this was not the only way to reproduce the problem.

                                Kind regards,
                                Peter Chaushev
                                V-Ray for SketchUp, QA
                                http://www.chaosgroup.com

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                                • P Offline
                                  pipinek
                                  last edited by

                                  WHAT A SHAME!!!
                                  I have spent almost two hours on setting my toolbars trays on two displays.

                                  What a piece of crap! The very basic customisation is completely bollocksed!
                                  I have repaired the installation as admin, added exception of my antivirus program. In vain.
                                  All sucks.

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                                  • Dave RD Offline
                                    Dave R
                                    last edited by

                                    What a shame indeed! there's no reason it should take two hours to do that even on two machines. That's not normal for SketchUp. What is with your computers that it took so long?

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                                    • F Offline
                                      fymoro
                                      last edited by

                                      Hi to all, I do had the same problem.
                                      I tried almost everything and fail.
                                      Then i solve the problem, in my case i have window 10, and i download a small software to take ownership full access of the 2 folders: program file - sketchup folder and %appdata% sketchup folder too.
                                      Then i open Sketchup as administrator, positioned all my toolbars, save as default template and closed.
                                      And Voila finally all is ok.
                                      here is the video i followed with the link to download.
                                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQPjQ5n459s

                                      Hope it will work for you!

                                      http://www.thearender.com/cms/index.php/news/featured-artists/137-frederic-yves-moro.html

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                                      • P Offline
                                        pibuz
                                        last edited by

                                        This did not work to me. Tried everything, I can't get two toolbars to stick where the hell I put them....... ๐Ÿ˜  ๐Ÿ˜  ๐Ÿ˜  ๐Ÿ˜  ๐Ÿ˜  ๐Ÿ˜ 

                                        WEB (ita) - https://filipposcarso.wixsite.com/ordinentropico

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